V28 has been released and is now available
 

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KX592IQU

Details on this release can be found at http://xoutpost.com/pdf/v28.pdf

Any significant changes from the previous version?

Thanks!

I think someone mentioned faster response in another thread. Guess we'll find out in a little bit =)

edit: I just updated, and I can't really tell any differences other than a changed software version to 4-1/80. The upgrade was a success.

I was honestly hoping for traffic information, but I suppose that's far fetched.\

There will be someone who will undoubtedly ask how to upgrade, and since I have plenty of time, I'll provide some instructions for how I did it.
1 - I used two programs: WinRAR from www.rarsoft.com and ImgBurn from www.imgburn.com. Just install both with the default options.
2 - Download from the megaupload link from above by clicking it, entering the three digit/letter alphanumberic verification code in the space provided, and submit. Once done, wait about 45 seconds. Some ads will probably pop up, obscurring the download link, so just close any windows or floating ads by clicking the 'x'. Click download at the end of 45 seconds and save to disk.
3 - Right click the file that just downloaded, and select 'extract to bmw v28\' and wait a minute for the program to decompress the two files.
4 - Open ImgBurn, insert a CD into your burner (and wait while it spins up0, and under 'Source' click the icon for 'Browse for a file'. From there, point the file browser the location of v28.mds, which was performed in step 3.
5 - I burn max speed, but generally a slower speed results in a more stable burn, so I suggest burning at the minimum speed. Click the giant burn button and let it do its job.
6 - Take the finished cd to the car. I turn the key to the first position and let everything boot and stabilize. I then eject the Navigation Map, insert the cd, and sit and wait in the car. The process claims to take 6 minutes, but it feels far less than that. Once the process finishes, the screen will tell you to remove the cd, which you should and insert back the map disc. Give it a minute to reboot, and it should have finished.

Thanks a ton appy. It is on its way down, and I can not wait to try it out! :)

Thanx appy :thumbup:

I just freshly installed V28 on my X3 without any problems, but there no visable changes imo.

Does anybody know if this is the European update..??? I have followed the link to Ver. 27.X and updateded the nav on my US MkIV, half of my functions disapeared (Aux Ventilation, Emergency call, CODE startup) and
the nav started measuring in yards instead of feet. I had to take the car back to the dealer to re-code to the US version. do not aske how much the cost, I simply learned my lesson...

If I know it is the US version I will be glad to look into it, otherwise forget it.

V28 now up on eMule
 

Hi All,

I've just put V28 up on emule to share with everyone.. If you've not used emule before get it from www.emule-project.net

ed2k link for those with emule already..

ed2k://|file|bmw%20v28.rar|143509949|455FED6EB3E3A995A62D 94A1C982A0B8|h=6X3RS43YZCBPZE7E5WYIBIC5FXKRPZTM|/

Glenn

Disticts are still not displayed.

I think the speed of loading maps and calculating directions is a little faster.

Update applied. Didn't notice any difference. I was also using it with the 2007.1 USA DVD. I noticed they built the navboot back in late May. Thats only a month after they built it for 27.1! Navtweak still works like a charm, and I again applied some custom colours. :) Thanks for posting the update.

Is it possible uploading it on "rapidshare" please

Thanks, El

what is the diff in the v28?

V27.1 is a global release, and V28 probably is as well. What happened to your system was something different. Sometimes, when you do an upgrade, it kicks the nav computer into what most of us affectionately call "Euro Mode." In Euro mode, most of the stuff you identified happens: the accept screen goes away, you lose the Emergency function, short distances revert to yards instead of feet. Behind the scenes, the nav computer loses the internally coded VIN for your car. Most nav users actually prefer Euro Mode to a properly coded nav computer. However, if you have BMW Assist, then you must keep it properly coded.

You also lost the Code functions and Aux ventilation. That is a different problem. However, you can get the functions back by pulling the fuses for the OBC and instrument cluster.

Torrent

http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/86...irmware_update

Others who have already downloaded the software should join the torrent and seed to help speed up the process.

Wow Guys!

2007.1 maps dvd and Nav OS 28 both within a week.

Man, you gotta LOVE THIS FORUM!!!!! :thumbup:

The accept screen goes away after 10 seconds with v.27 upgrade. I still have code and aux ventilation on menu after v.27 upgrade.

Just loaded v28.

Everything went smoothly and appears to be functioning properly :)


Question... I know there's no major advantage to upgrading MKIII past v24. But if v27.1 or v28 was loaded would it cause the 'ACCEPT' screen to auto-accept after a few seconds as it does on the MKIV?

Worth a try, nothing to loose. ;)

Apparently v28 has no affect on MK3's at least not that I could see. In fact, it doesn't appear to do an update at all as there's no progress bar to show the update is being loaded.

After a few seconds and message is displayed that the system is already up to date and the OS cd is ejected.

Once rebooted and the map cd is returned. The "Accept" screen still requires a manual accept :(

Loaded v28 update on both my bimmers. No issues. Didn't get converted to Euro mode, didn't lose any options. All went smooth. :)

im in australia..gained a BMW Assist option and a BMW Assist roaming option in Set menu. WHen i go into it, it says BMW Assist not avaliable, check phone.

Boah,

this time megaupload worked perfectly for me without the premium fee:nanana: I will burn the CD now and update my X3. My BMW Electritian told me that V28 is primarly aimed at supporting new functions that come with the 2007-1 DVD. Still the Euro maps are not available and I can not confirm what these functions are:confused:

Timiboy

I'd guess it will be post code lookup, I hope so, time will tell.

A couple of things that might have changed (although I can't say for sure since I can't remember what they looked like in V27!!) :

1) In the destination input screen it used to say "City?", now it says "City/PC?".

2) There is an option on Route Selection to "Exclude Ferrys", was that there before? I remember "Exclude Toll", but not "Exclude Ferrys".

I have uploaded it to Rapidshare for those who prefer it or can't use Megaupload.

Unfortunately this file has been removed by Rapidshare following complaints

Those both are already in V26 and also post code search works in V26 with BMW 2006-2 DVD (Europe).

As i heard, the map should be faster (turns, zoom...)

Does Navtweak still work?

CortinaD

I also have BMW Assist...You must turn on the phone,i have pin code,and when i activate it,it works...So,the phone must be "turned on" activated"

I'm having issues burning the update...I used Alcohol 120 at first but it wasn't burning and then I tried Image Burn, but when I try to burn the mdf file it automatically sends me to the mds file, then says that there an error. I did change the splash screen, but I did that on 27.1 and it worked fine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Just burn the CD from the .mdf file instead. Remember to select "all files" when selecting the file from the image burning wizard !

In Alcohol 120, I just selected the .mds file. This worked perfectly.

the mds file is only 1kb, how does that work?

Alcholol complained for me too, invalid image. I used Imgburn, it burned the image, later when verifying it mentioned errors in sector 3. I ignored the errors, used the CD and updated the software in the car without any problem. The only difference I saw was the already mentioned "Avoid Ferries" option for route.

Thanks for sharing,
David

I think it references the other file and burns it.

Thank you Thank you Thank you:thumbup:
Save me the Magaupload BS:mad:

For all of you that downloaded Cris_h's rapidshare...It is true that something is a little wrong with the mds and mdf files.
DON'T PANIC
Try first to mount this image at a virtual drive with Alcohol 120% and then try the "copy wizard" option from Alcohol. Select as source the virtual drive and as target the Physical CD Recorder of your computer.:thumbup:

If there's something wrong with them, how come I burnt them OK and updated my nav system with them?

I had the exact same experience too. My updated worked fine, despite the ImgBurn verify errors.

Hi guys,

My first post here, but I have been reading this forum now for many months ...

Just thought I would share a discovery with you all ...

\V_2\RR\0101\BMWC01S\app_sw\tioarch.tar seems to contain some config files and some of the options look like the ones some people are desperate for ...

nav_gd.tio
----------
[OffroadGuidance]
OffroadGuidanceMode=1
OffroadGuidanceVoiceMessageMode=1

0 being true and 1 being false, hmmm I wonder ...

Regards,

Odia.

Quick question
 

Used search, but couldn't find an answer...

Currently my Nav shows distances in km units. If I upgrade to 27.1 or 28 for that matter, will it stay in km or change to miles?

Thanks.

It will remain the same. However, you can change this in settings anyway!

Well, I have the latest WinRAR and the file from megauplaod reckons it has a CRC error

I would be very worried about flashing my Nav with this one !

this might be a dumb question, but will i lose
my perspective view?:dunno:

Perspective still works fine.

schweet! time to play.

Relax m8...I used your file as well!!!
All I (and other people) said was that if you unrar your file it creates an .mds and an .mdf file. (so far so good)
These files sould be burned with Alcohol...correct?
If you go to "Image Burning Wizard" in Alcohol and point it to your v28.mds and click "next" you get an error msg "Unrecognised file format for recording"
I just pointed the solution to all these people who downloaded your file, so that they don't have to download it again from somewhere else.
I did it...flashed my M3 and is working great.
BTW thanks for the file;)

That's odd because that's the exact process I used with no error. I'm using Alcohol 120 Version 1.9.5 build 4212.

I downloaded the file and burned with Alcohol 120. I did everything you said and when i loaded on the nav after a minute it went blank. Now nothing comes on I hear the radio but nothing on the screen.

I updated my nav to v28, and the change I see:

I get the Traffic information option (TMC) and you have some choice like weather, close road, etc..


Kool...:rofl:

Where do you go to get these options? I updated on my M3 and X5 and I don't see any of the options you mentioned???

Sounds like a bad disk. Try again with a lower version disk that you know works. Once you have it up and running again, you can try burning a new V28 disk. Try a different brand media or slower speed recorder.

----==== V28 EUROPEAN DOWNLOAD LINK ====----

Hi!

If MEGAUPLOAD doesn't work or does not has accessible, then here for you a european wide bandwidth link:

www.bmwsw.uw.hu

password: v28

Sounds like you may have thrown your system into "Euro" mode as I don't think TMC is available in the US market yet (althought there's talk of it coming soon and many had hoped it would be a feature of v28).

Verify that you still have "Emergency" on your menu and also that you're still getting "feet" for close distances and not "yards".

If I missed something and "TMC" is in fact a option now, I apologize and would also like to know how it is accessed.

I just verified if Emergency is on the menu and it not there anymore, Also the scale is "yds" not in Feet"

Now what? :confused:

Thanks DaPenetrator for pointing thing out...

It on the input destination Screen, if you scroll down, But like daPenetrator said TMC is not avaliable in the US.

I think your only recourse now is to either live with it or pay a visit to the $tealer for Nav Recoding. Many owners choose to leave it this way as it has no affects on the opearation of the system, unless of you have BMW Assist. Assist will not work in "Euro" mode from my understanding and in that case recoding is neccessary to get Assist back. I'm not sure whether going back to a previous version and then upgrading again will work or not. I wouldn't think that would. Do a search on the topic. There have been many posts. Good Luck. Keep us posted.

The only way to return to the USA mode will be recoding of the NAV computer. Unfortunately, you will also probably need to recode the Assist (BT) TCU as well ..... for some reason when the NAV computer switches back to Euro mode the Assist TCU looses the VIN number which it needs. Its very odd.

Well, I downloaded BMW v28.rar from the OP's megaupload link and burned it to CD using the current version of Alcohol 120% with zero issues. It loaded up flawlessly into my car too. Thanks guys for posting this update!

That is exactly what I was talking about in a post erlier in this thread...
V 28 found here is the european stuff, when I loaded ver 27.1 from here it
put the nav in Euro mode and I lost Emergency, code, Aux Ventilation and BMW Assist VIN. To make the point clearer, US $tealers have a different V28 that will upload and update the the NAV (OS so to speak) but will leave the active state of the OBC alone including Emergency, Aux ventilation, Code and BMW assist. Feet will stay the same and the mesuring appears to be more accurate when the system points to a turn or an address. I had to pay close to a $ 150 to find that out. So once again, do not rush into upgrade if you want your US nav to stay in US...
Special care if your car is leased... they want it back the way you got it or you will pay again for the fix. ;)

It's my understanding that Nav OSes are global releases. That fact that all the Nav computers are manufactured in Europe (Germany, France, etc.) and that the ones installed in and shipped to North America have been encoded for the NA markets is the problem (or not). Afterall you're driving a German (European) designed, engineered, and built vehicle, not a Detroit special.

Since the Navs are native Euro there is always a chance that any ROM flashing will throw a system back into it's native state (ie. Euro) and would therefore have to be recoded for whichever market it was coded to work in orginally. The same is true of any device capable of Flash ROM Updating (ie, cell phones, PDAs, computers, MP3 players, etc.).

As we all know these updates were designed to be done at the dealership were as they could recode them on the spot if one was accidentially thrown back to native Euro; in addition to them charging you upwards of 1 hour or more in labor cost for the update alone. As a customer getting this done thru the dealer, you wouldn't be the wiser if the update failed and had to reloaded and then the system recoded, unless of course it was overlooked and left in Euro when you picked up your vehicle.

We should all be grateful that we can obtain these updates (OSes and Maps) thru the advances of technology without having to pay $199.00 for maps or $150+ for OS upgrades. If done properly and with quality materials (CDs, DVDs, clean downloads, etc.) these updates generally work flawlessly as intended. But keep in mind that nothing is 100% foul proof. There will always to be that small percentage of units that fail and will need to be recoded. Still, look at how many people report back that their systems updated without any problems and are very pleased and grateful.

Not to be directed to DataReady specifically, but to anyone who complains about their system failing or having to be recoded after a failed update....

So you pay $150.00 to have you system recoded this time... how many times before then have you saved $150.00 when it worked or saved $199.00 when you didn't have to buy updated map disks.

It's a chance you take doing this. If you don't want to take it... don't do it! I'm sure the dealer and NavTeq will be happy to take your money instead.

Also to be clear to everyone reading this thread. The NAV firmware updates are not country or region specific. This is only determined through coding!

I guess we need more folks to load V28 on the USA based systems to see if it resets to Euro. So far I guess we have 2 cases - Yes ?

:confused: I believe so, I'm one of them....I will leave it like that for now since I do not have the BMW Assist.

[quote=DaPenetrator]

Not to be directed to DataReady specifically, but to anyone who complains about their system failing or having to be recoded after a failed update....[quote]

I am not complaining, I am only repeating and stressing the issue that we all see quiet often, the Nav lost some component and was kicked in Euro mode, that is all. Sharing my experience does not mean I am complaining, I am very greatful for the Map updates. Presently ( as I stated before) I am keeping my nav in the (None euro mode) that is to avoid saying US or none US mode and not to offend the global release users. This not an advice against update. Just take a look at the thread, half of the posts are about lost options and how to recover them back.

And here it is in ISO format too for everyone that doesn't have Windows or who doesn't want to install the "Alcohol" software...

http://www.filefactory.com/file/b8cee1/

Why ISO? It's an industry standard specification (as opposed to MDF which is proprietary) and is supported by virtually all CD burning software on Windows, Mac and Linux...

Where do I find the 2007 map update?
 

I downloaded the OS update, where do I find the maps?

where do I find the 2007.1 maps dvd ?
 

So where do I find the 2007.1 maps dvd ?

As per an earlier post, I updated both my US based cars w/ v28 and all functions are working fine and still in US mode. Maybe some folks are trying to do the update twice with the same version or doing it a second time w/ an older version? Doing it a second time with either the same version or and older version will throw your nav into Euro mode.

At your dealer? :)

So these are the functions that are enabled on the range rover nav system... Hmm... (btw, RR uses a MkIII nav comp)

So we could all eventually have off-road navigation too?

Don't know where you're hailing from, but the 2007.1 maps dvd that have been posted on here so far is the North American 2007.1 High version.

If that the version you need.. Do a search on 2007.1 and I'm sure you'll find it.

Small clarification .... If you attempt to update the NAV firmware with the same version you currently have installed, the NAV system will not perform the update as there is nothing to do. It checks the version number with whats installed and whats on the CD. It also does not switch to Euro mode on doing this!

There is one exception to this rule that we know about. It involves replacing the voice prompt(s) with a different language. i.e switch the USA voice to a English voice, etc. You can do this with the same version you have already installed. However, even when you do this ... it will not reset the system and take it out of USA mode.

You are correct however if you downgrade the firmware version. In all cases this does revert the Nav computer to the default region which appears to be the so called Euro mode.

Just thought I'd comment...

-Initially burned the image with ImgBurn. Verified the disk: detected 3 "errors"
-Burned another disk using Alcohol 120% (on a different PC, different .rar file) - No errors reported. Then used ImgBurn to verify the disk, again detected 3 "errors".

Thoughts?

I stand corrected. Thank you. :)

Did anyone already tried to change the OffroadGuidance in 0 or can advise from personal experience on the effects?

I don't have any difficulties with opening the tioarch.Tar and reading the nav_gd.tio with WinRar. But it seems impossible changing anything and Tar it again. I already tried in different ways.


Before suggesting anything, please try it first or make an attachment with corrections.
Thanks,

El

Hi Everyone! I just wanted to advise you all that I downloaded the NAV OS Ver. 28 .rar file, extracted it with WinRar and burned it with Alcohol 120% to a CD. Loaded it today on my 2005 X5, no problems, nothing was changed, everything worked fine. Then added the new 2007.1 Map DVD created the same way, again no problems. Set-up Perspective View in the Service Menu and enjoyed the new view. All is well and I will make the same upload of NAV OS to my X3 tomorrow and then add the new 2007.1 Map DVD.

Thank you all for sharing!!

MJM

Mac user here. I used UnRarX to de-compress all files, changed the .mdf to .iso, used Toast to 'mount disc', used Toast further to burn both v28 and 2007.1 (separately of course) and am happy to report that everything works perfectly with my 2005 X5! Thanks to all who shared! You guys rock!!!

Can Anyone Help me to load Nav OS v28?
 

I have downloaded v28 after I couldn't get v27.1 to work but have the same problem. I downloaded v28 as a ".rar" file and extracted it into two files, a ".mdf" file and a ".mds". I have burned them both to a CD then gone to car and followed instructions posted in this thread. That is I turned the ignition to position 1, got Sat Nav working and then removed the map DVD and inserted the CD. A message comes up to say that an incorrect DVD/CD has been inserted and to replace with an appropriate disk. This also came up with the v27.1 CD I had burned. In both cases I used Nero to burn the discs and used the option for burning a data disk. Can anyone help?

You aren't burning those two files directly to the CD, are you? :confused:

If so, that's not what you want to do. Those files are control and image files that contain data that a program such as Alcohol 120% will use to make an exact duplicate of the original.

:goodluck:

Thanks for this. I did assume the references in the thread to Alcohol and Imgburn were just standard burning s/w so ignored them. I'll try to find a site to download one of these and give it a go.

Thanks again.

Is there any update order that you have to go in or can I go from lets say version 25 to version 28?

You can go directly from V25 to V28.

1) Nero doesn't understand those files because they are unfortunately for the "Alcohol" CD burning program only. In the thread above, you'll find a link to the image in **ISO** format. Nero, like most burners, can write an ISO image to a CD (Select "Recorder" | "Burn Image" from the menu)

2) This file is a CD *IMAGE*, not a file or files that you must write to a blank data CD as you have. i.e. this file is a low-level copy of a *WHOLE* CD. In other words, if you've done this correctly, you will see the following files on the CD after you've created it:

22/09/2006 10:11 <DIR> CC93_
22/09/2006 10:11 <DIR> LANGUAGES
22/09/2006 10:11 <DIR> MMI93
22/09/2006 10:11 <DIR> Mk2C
22/09/2006 10:11 <DIR> Mk2M
22/09/2006 10:11 <DIR> Mk3
22/09/2006 10:11 <DIR> NVCC93
22/09/2006 10:11 <DIR> PSH4
22/09/2006 10:11 <DIR> V_2
22/09/2006 10:11 <DIR> csb
22/09/2006 10:11 <DIR> langMk2
22/09/2006 10:11 <DIR> langMk3
22/09/2006 10:11 <DIR> language
31/05/2000 12:20 3,092 NAVRelease.table
31/05/2000 12:20 3,092 MMIRelease.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig001.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig002.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig003.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig004.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig005.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig006.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig007.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig008.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig009.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig010.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig011.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig012.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig013.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig014.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig015.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig016.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig017.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig018.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig019.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig020.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig021.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig022.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig023.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig024.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig025.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig026.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig027.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig028.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig029.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig030.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig031.table
31/05/2000 12:20 18 SoftConfig032.table
31/05/2000 12:20 2,112 SysConfig.table
31/05/2000 12:20 2,048 abstract
31/05/2000 12:20 4,096 bibliography
11/12/1996 13:53 299 ccsysid.lst
26/11/1999 13:59 326 copyrightnotice
31/05/2000 12:20 353,664 mmi_sw_load
31/05/2000 12:20 383,696 nav_sw_load
41 File(s) 753,001 bytes
13 Dir(s) 0 bytes free

Burning v28
 

Thanks very much. I used Imgburn and have successfully loaded v.28 and enabled Perspective.

Perspective
 

Hi,
I have just retrofited navigation to my 2005 325i and am running v27.1 and 2007.1 dvd maps. I am planning to upgrade to v.28. Can you tell me/point me at the procedure to enable perspective view?
Thanks,
Peter

Enter the settimgs menu, press and hold the Menu button for 10 seconds, then scroll down to the bottom of the hidden menu, sellect Perspective and then Yes.

Just been looking at V28 with navtweak and noticed that there is a hidden menu option of 'Off Road Menu'. Can anyone activate this?

Already mentioned the problem as you can see above Dinger. Got no reply till now. Hopefully later on.

El

tar is a type of archive, mostly used in the linux environment, tar xvf <archive name> to extract, tar cvf <archive name> <files...> to create, attached is the modified file for you, just remove .txt extention.

Odia.

Thanks Odia. But why did you only change the "OffroadGuidanceMode=0", and not the "OffroadGuidanceVoiceMessageMode=1".

Can you also tell us what effect it results on the off road guidance??

El

I have burned using image burn but I also get 3 errors message can anyone confirm this is ok to upload using this disc with errors on
Thanks

Many of us got the same, including me. The disk worked fine in my car.

Got it!
 

Richard,
Thanks very much for help. Perspective is working now! :)
Thanks,
Peter

Thanks for the info Brian BMW I updated the nav this evening. all working fine.

Thanks again guys for sharing the info.

Sorry to ask this at this late stage.... I have done the upgrade, I have to say, I have always used the method recommended by this site, Winrar and Alchahol 120% and it works just fine...

Anyway, my question... Has anyone discovered what actual changes there are in this release?? mine looks and reacts exactly the same as V27 so far??

Cheers

Jason

This is posted a few posts lower down. Basically, no changes!

Saw it just after posting!! Doh!

thx bud, i have emule but where do u plugin this link? i pasted it into firefox which launches the emule client, but nothing happens.

Off topic, sorry for the temporary hijack.

Hey Bimerrrrrrrrr, your screen name won't last long. You're going to have to count the r's everytime you log on.:rofl:

Hijack over...carry on men. :)

In e-mule select 'Tools' then 'Paste e2DK links' copy the link and then hit 'Download'.

Can Anyone send me the file "crc.24.exe" please? I want test the new firmware changing the english menu to Italian Menu. But at the moment I can do nothing because i'm waiting 3 days for my account activation in the yahoo groups to download the file i need! send to [email protected]. Thanks to everybody for the help. Then my test will be useful for anyone!

Where should that file be??

Timiboy

i've found it! and now testing! thank you!

I upgraded my Mk iV DVD sat nav April 2003, actually built December 02 I beleive - version 4/1-12 - using Version 28 software and saw no real difference except that I can now access the perspective view and it claims I can have traffic information and does give me the options as to what I would like to see.

For one brief glorious moment it put symbols all over the map showing road works etc. and left me several messages about local road works and then nothing.

I did this as part of a comprehensive upgrade of the maps to include all of Europe was told to expect speed camera data too - but cannot see any.

I now also have the latest version of TIS and the wiring diagrams - but other than the screen now looks more pretty I cannot see any difference.

Upload time took less than 1 minute by the way not the 6 it said it might be.

Last night the DVD froze i the machine and took 3 ejects and reboots to get it back - seems ok now though. Not sure why it did that.

I have had a discussion with some other X5 forum members and now have my sat nav in perspective glory with speed camera locations and post code address finding for all roads in Europe - courtesy of V28 upgrade and a new map disc.

Unfortunately, the disc malfunctioned today and I have resorted back to my old BMW 2003-2 map disc with no speed camera locations.

I am discussing the disc fault with the eBay supplier and will let you know how I get on - he has been very patient and very helpful with me so far so I am NOT complaining!

Hello.

Hello Mike.

Firstly - many thanks for your reply.

Secondly - did I ask you to spend a hour of your valuable time? Retorical.

Thirdly - I was away from my computer from Friday afternoon to Monday morning and unable to pick up replies.

Fourthly I am new to this forum and may have mistaken the level of; a) knowledge and b). time commitment that is required to participate. Perhaps I should resign my membership.

Fifth and lastly - I made no complaint about the supplier or the supplied disc by a third party. Quite the opposite in fact - he has been very helpful. I was fully aware that it was not an authorised BMW disc and would not rely on the speed camera data on such - although it is from Pocket GPS World and is the September 2006 update.

I will now go away and not bother you or the Forum Members further.

Thank You.

Hello Mike,

Thankyou for your further reply.

Yes I did purchase the V28, 2006-2 maps, speed camera data, TIS 3 and wiring diagrams from Bruce who has done his best to be helpful - and I have no complaint.

He has agreed to send me a newly created 2007-1 Europe disc with European speed camera data on a different type of DVD disc to try.

I will let the Forum know what the outcome of this is.

I had no problem with the V28 upgrade - only me being dim and not reading the manual correctly to find things in the complex menus.

The upgrade is currently working fine with my old BMW 2003-2 map of the UK.

My screen is a 65.52-6 934 413 May 2003 version 16:9 widescreen as split or one in flat or perspective mode and the GPS seems to work faultlessly.

On a completely different but related matter, I have, over the weekend, purchased a new to me Navi Monitor unit for £390 - just missed one at £320 - part number 65.52-6 923 878 as a replacement for the current one which has a 9 second "blink" fault.

(See my other posts on this).

As this blink fault continues even when the DVD is disconnected, I took it to be a fault with the Navi Monitor and unrelated to the operation of the DVD - other X5 Forum members concured when I asked.

When it arrives and I have fitted it - which even I think I can do by removing the trim and unscrewing the 6 torx screws as, after reading several helpful posts on this Forum, I had a dry run of this last Friday - I shall report back on what happens.

No doubt it will prove to be slightly more complicated than I think it is - but if all else fails the unit can go back to be recycled on eBay once again.

I note your dire warnings of not playing with my DVD. I have my fingers crossed - but I want to do this and I don't want to go to my local dealer.

So far I have avoided giving a single penny to BMW directly.

But if all does go wrong, my back up plan is to purchase a new DVD Mk IV unit on eBay for about £150.

I will update the Forum ............. :)

John Thank You

i loaded v28 yesterday without a hitch on my 04 4.4i still in USA mode and currently using 2007.1 nav disc

hope this helps

maybe there is a 2007-1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-Europa-DVD...QQcmdZViewItem

No.

Mike - with respect you really should stop slandering other people and their actions when you admit you know nothing of the specific circumstances other than what you have heard 3rd hand from an ill-informed source - i.e. me!

My own source - with whom I have no complaint might I add - has informed me that I was in error and the disc he has for Europe is indeed a 2006-2 disc.

I apologise.

John, thank you.

Some idiot had the audacity to complain to eBay? Whoever it was is a complete moron! This is for him: :clueless:

Hello Mike - apology accepted and returned to you with interest.

Lets move forward together on this one.

Many thanks for your very generous offer of a free disc - but for now, I will let my original source have the oportunity to resolve the matter which he willingly offered to do.

I completely concur with your view that copying discs is not a very profitable enterprise - especially if you have returns or end up refunding.

I am disappointed but not surprised that some mean spirited person reported you for contravention of eBay's VERO rules.

It always seems to be slow payers who paid the least who complain the most.

Hence my own very nearly 100% feedback rating as a seller on eBay - but not quite.

So is this what we are looking for?

BMW Nr.65 90 0 418 744http://i14.ebayimg.com/06/i/08/92/9d/7a_1.JPG
http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif

Thank You for your support.

i think that is very interesting
 

What a strange post;) . However I have signed the petition because I am in total agreement - though I doubt that BMW AG will give a toss:nanana:

Is it possible to change the splashscreen? I love my own splashscreen in v27.1 and I don't want to miss them in the future.

many thanks

Yes. Read the "Sticky" for "NavTweak" at the top of the Navigation forum.

On previous occasions, I think it was for 2006-2 but might have been 2006-1, when asking if they had the latest map disk I got a reply along these lines :

"The 2006-2 disk is in stock at the BMW depot in the UK, but they will not release it untill they have sold all the 2006-1 disks!"

argl :-( ... tree ... forest ... sorry! thank you!

QED.

Excellent grasp of English! I'll assume that "You cannot see the woods for the trees!?". Nicely said.:)

I must be doing something wrong. I followed the directions above, even downloaded the RAR and burner. I put the key in position 1, hit the accept button, eject the Nav disk, and load the burnt cd. It goes in for a couple of seconds and self ejects. Does anyone has suggestions?

Thanks,

Did you "directly" burned it from the mds file on a CD +? And what do you mean by 'hit the accept button" after putting the key in pos 1?
El

Thank You

Thanks for all the info. I downloaded Alcohol 120% burned it and it loaded right away. On version 27 i read that the accept screen goes away after 8 seconds. I haven't noticed that with V28. Is that true?

Smokeoc68

My "BMW" logo (Is that what you mean by "Accept Screen"?) disappears after about 4 secs with V28 - as it did with V20.1 & V27.1 before it.:)

Probably not! :)

The Accept screen is only shown in the US and warns you not to use the system while driving yada yada. In versions prior to V27 you had to remove the screen manually, in V27 on it goes away automatically after about 7-8 seconds.

Not the same as the logo screen.

Poor American bretheren:confused:

Does the v28 Working Properly In MkIII systems?

V28 updates ALL BMW SatNav systems - Mks 1,2,3,4 & Navis1,2 & 3..........:)

I have v16.2. Can i go to v28 directly from v16.2 or i should update to v17 first?

You can go safely to V28 direct.:) It will update you to 3-1/63.

I beg to differ! You need v18 with the key cd first to give you the split screen option after which you can go straight to v28 although there is little point in using anything above v22 as that was the last time any changes were made to the Mk3 operating system!

http://www.xoutpost.com/articles/all-...ng-system.html

Always plenty of information on this forum before you commit!

Andy.

Can you still use perspective mode as seen in the V26 "custom" or do you lose that capability with this update?

Thanks.

Curtis

Does anyone know where i can find v 17 or v 17.1 for bmw navigation system OS?

Hi There,

I can't help you with version 17 software, but version 18 I can help you with.

Go to http://www.e38.org/nav

Download v18-key.zip

This file contains two compressed files, one is for the actual Operating System and the second one is for the KEY CD that is required if you are upgrading from earlier versions on the MKIII system.

This zip file also contains the CloneCD software that is required in order to extract these two files.

So it's the complete package - all you need are two blank CD-R media.

Which system are you upgrading? MKI, MKII or MKIII?

i am updating A MKIII navigation with OS 3-1/21 with v16.2 system software. What i should do to update it to a newer software?

plntzas,

Just follow my instructions above to download v18-key.zip file - that will update your MKIII from 3-1/21 to 3-1/40. You need to do this first because your unit will be asking for the Key-CD which is supplied in that ZIP file.

After you've upgraded to 3-1/40, you can then upgrade easily to 3-1/63, which is when you get the beautiful new graphical user interface.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask, because I did the upgrade myself yesterday.

plntzas, it's probably best to create a new thread instead of hijacking this one. I will cease to talk about the MKIII system on this thread because it is not relevant to the MKIV users who want to know more about the V28 update disk

Brand Noob here, is this firmware or map update?
 

Just bought a 2001 3.0i and luff it, looking around for things to throw money at. The engine seemed pretty maxed out from the factory (CAI's and chips don't seem to do much) so I want to update the Nav- my CD is from 2001. I downloaded this file- is v28 a firmware upgrade? Also, the dealer wants $129 for the latest map CD. Is there anywhere to get a better deal? Thanks in advance.

First of all, have a read of this, and it'll become all clear.

http://www.xoutpost.com/articles/all-...ystem-faq.html

can someone seed please ?;)

How can you apply customer collors

To apply custom colours, read all of this post:

http://www.xoutpost.com/navigation-sy...vtweak-15.html

......

thank you ncx.
I have download it :-)

now i can select "perspective view". thanks for posting!!!

Help.

I've downloaded and burned V28 for my Mini Cooper S navigation system.
Then I turned my contact on (first click) waited for the system to started up completly and then inserted te V28 CD.
On the screen there was a message "cd rom inserted, reading software".
After that the screen turned blue and remain empty and blue for 25 minutes, so i ejected the cd.
Now nothing is working any more, the screen remain blue.

What to do?

Hey,
can someone please post the v28 firmware update in dutch menu as well dutch language. Thx

I have a May 2003/E46 330 Cabrio and I am living in Denmark/Europe. Car is equipped with the MK IV system. I followed "shoimin" 's instructions and it just worked out a 100%, and the graphics improved significantly (I was on the V24 O/S). Thanks for quality advice in this forum.

As advised by Shoimin I used the WinRAR software (very easy) and the ImgBurn, also very easy. The V28 software download was from the URL:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KX592IQU

Regards
Jesper

Downloaded from Megasoft, created img with Alcohol 120%, and upgraded to V28 from V27 with no issues. Everything fine, thanks guys! :thumbup:

Pierre, I am going to make a guess here since no one else has answered you but obviously the update bombed in the middle of it so now you are stuck. I am going to assume you have the right version for your Mini as I have no idea if it same NAV as the X5, if so, my guess is it is the CD, try burning another copy maybe on a different brand of CD, I used NERO at the slowest speed. I had no problem with the V28 update myself but when I made a backup of my maps disk I found it took about 3 tries to get it right so clearly the DVD drive doesn't read all that well.

Seems to me the worst case scenario will be a trip to the dealer where they can probably just reprogram it for you.

The problem was the type of the navigation system.:dunno:
I've got the MK III, the CDROM version.
The V28 update only works for the DVD system the MKIV.:confused:
The latest version for the MKIII is 22 or 23, and 28 will not work.

So I've to look out voor a MKIV system. :wow:

The v28 CD also contains the last update for the MKIII system, the v28 CD had 3 errors which did not cause issues with the MKIV system, but I was not sure where the errors on the disk where located so its possible it was in the MKIII update.

All is not lost, just download and burn the v27 update disk, burn at the slowest speed possible on your writer with a good quality disk.

Remove the power to the MKIII system, pull the cables direct from the unit or remove the fuse or worse case remove your negative battery cable, wait 20 minutes and repower the unit, set your key position to 1 and insert the CD, hopefully it will update and come back to life.

Odia.

I got 3 verify-errors as well, and tried to burn an additional DVD (at low speed; 1x) to confirm whether or not the faults replicated. They did, and at the exact same 3 physical locations on the CD. I then crossed my fingers and updated my system - and it just works perfectly.

Hello people.

Where can I get the V28 in Spanish language??

Thank you very much!!!! ;)

Kind regards:
Breme330xi

The V28 disk comes with all supported language packs. It's the coding of the vehicle that determines what languages you can choose from the nav screen options.

:xoutpost:

where do i download the v28 from?

Perhaps the link on the first post in this thread ;)

Thank you very much!!!!!! ;)

Do you know what's the meeaning of your nick in spanish??

El Jeffe = The boss

Regards!!!

the file comes up as unrecognised format when i try to burn with alcohol 120? can somebody pot the contents of the mds file please. When i open it in notepad it is full of question marks. Or is there another way to burn it?
I have downloaded it 4 times on two different pc's with the same effect

Thanks in advance

I have to thank you everyone here in this forum who made my update ran so smooth.

I updated the v28 with no option taken it out such as Emergency, Aux Vent. etc., I also manage to get the 2007.1 US Map. Works great.
I love it, thanks

Has anyone been able to use the V28 in a Range Rover MK3? Getting an error that says "wrong disk" when attempting to update with the V28 BMW software.

Thanks appy for the link. I downloaded the OS from megaupload and got the Nav DVD from t0rren7s. Everything works fine, gonna run this for a few more days and see how things are hanging! Just wanted to post this message to appreciate the help provided by the members here. :) :thumbup:

Is there a place to get the Nav DVD besides the dealer? I think 2007-1 or something is the latest?

Not sure whether I can link directly....but here are few clues!
Go to t0rrentspy (dot) com.

(Hint hint: (replace zero with the letter o above).)

Search for BMW 2007.1 US and download the t0rrent with the same name. The download will take at least 2-3 days. Once done, extract, burn and enjoy!

Hope this helps.

You're awesome! Thanks!

Accept screen not going away...
 

I recently upgraded my system to V28. All went very smoothly and I love the extra features and perspective view. However, one of the main things I wanted was the accept screen to "auto-accept" after 8-15 seconds. Others on this thread have had it work, but I cant seem to get mine to. I can drive for an hour and it will stay waiting for me to press that darn button:confused: . Are there any settings I have to change for it to "auto-accept" I did notice that the accept soft button changed from the left side of the screen to the right side of the screen after the upgrade. Thanks

Can this update be used in a 2000 740il? it has the original version. Are their any issues in doing so?

Proud owner of a BRICK
 

I attempted this update last night on my E39 with a Mk4 system. I burned the image to an admitidly low-quality cd-r at 1x speed.

Initially, all went well, the progress bar went from left all the way to the right. Then it just hung there for a few minutes. Then it showed me an error screen saying "failed to update" or something like that.

Now the screen is completely blank. It's on, but there's nothing there. Radio still works. Guess it's time to go to the deal and confess my Sin.

I did it today
 

I downloaded the v28 *.md? today, converted to .ISO using UltraISO, burned to a Maxell CD-R at 2x with Sonic RecordNow DX, and loaded onto my 2003, E39, w/MK IV with no problems.

If at first it doesn't succeed, try it again . . .


Greg
2003 ///M5 Jet Black/Black, Sport
Beastpower Sway Bar Brackets, Bluetooth, Aux Audio Input & all "plus" options except PDC

where can i get a v28 from

Try looking at the first post in this thread :doh:

i don't know how to retrieve it

Hey guys im new to the forum. I just bought a 2001 540i. I believe it has the CD navigation system not the dvd. It's the large screen navigation.

Would this upgrade work for my car as well? I've also been looking at a place to download the map cd, or buy them on the cheap?

Any suggestions?

I know im a newbie to the forums so bare with me.

Thanks to all the help through PM's by the members. I was able to do the initial upgrade to v18 then up to the v28 smoothly. Everything is working great.

Now on to find the updated 2006.2 cd for my area....

Hi Guy's...
Followed the instructions to the letter on downloading and burning.

The disc burned fine at 1x speed but 3 sector errors were reported,anyone else have this before i steam ahead with the update?

Go Ahead with 3 errors!
 

I got those... don't worry about them, upgrade should work fine. I took the precaution of going to 27.1 and then to 28, ;) but this was unnecessary from what I understand.

Thanks for that,got a few other issues,I'll be back;)

All went very smooth, version 4.1-80 now showing:thumbup: Thanks!!

May be a dumb question but how do I view perspective screen?

Using 2004.1 map at the moment,this may be why I cant select it??

Perspective...
 

Cool...
Go into "Settings" from the main menu.
While in Settings, hold down "Menu" button for 10-15 secs. New list should come up.
The Perspective option is the last one down, change to "On"
Go back to the GPS Nav map view
Click the right dial/knob to pull up the map menu
Select "Map Positioning", you should see the Perspective View option there.

ENJOY!

Worked a treat..Thankyou:thumbup: Looks cool!!

Can the speed camera ,poi database work on older maps too?

Anyone have V28 with the British female voice instead of american? From searching on this forum it looks like all I need to do is rename the British voice to the US name and rename the US as a .BAK instead of .CSF

I will keep reading and searching but any assistance would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance. :thumbup:

Hello Ian054, I didn't notice this when I did the upgrade today as I was more concerned (or ONLY concerned) about the upgrade actually working (and I did it while outside the house, on an errand). I'll try to check it tomorrow. Meanwhile, are you still able to display suburbs?

Anyone? :)

Well, a little confused here so here we go:)
I selected perspective mode and it works fine but doesn't show street names while driving anymore,on any scale. ( although it shows poi, ie restaraunts)...also I cant change perspective to OFF, it selects on the menu to off but when the nav starts back up its still there ?

Anyone experienced this?

Can I go back to ver 27 to try this?

Hi, same happened on mine...I can select "birdview" but don't show street names and sites.
I tryed go back at normal view and it show me names...:dunno: dunno why...Maybe it's normal for that view.
I think that also with V27 should be the same...:bawling:

Any suggestions? :rolleyes:

Found out by a kind member that its normal not to show street names for "perspective" view.

Finally got mine back to "flat" view, now cant get it back to "perspective":rofl: ...takes a few goes on mine for some reason:hitanykey:

EDIT- Click the right dial/knob to pull up the map menu
Select "Map Positioning", you should see the Perspective View option there....oop's :-)

trying to get to the settings hidden menu
 

I can't seem to get into the hidden system menu.

1. I upgraded my MKIII unit with an MKIV unit from ebay. Easy plug and play.
2. The unit was coded for Euro mode. I am waiting for reslers.de IBUS i/f to recode to US with navcoder, I like feet better although I like the British voice, very proper!
3. I upgraded from 27.1 to 28 successfully.

Now, I want to try perspective mode, however when I press menu key, select Set, hold menu key for up to 30 sec nothing happens. What am I doing wrong? Is this because part of the car is coded as US and the NAV is coded as Euro?

Scs...in my X5, and you should try this, I go in "set", move cursor on "screen" and here don't enter in screen menu but hold "menu" button about 10 secs...will appear another menu from which you can choose "perspective".:thumbup:

Cant get past the navi update screen???:banghead:

Thanks Symbian, that did it.

So if all you ever do is "upgrade" a US nav with BMW Assist and Bluetooth, it will NEVER go into Euromode? So basically if you are a guy screwing around, you'd better bump up the version every time you want to load a new file??? :)

HI all; I’ve been lurking some, and to be honest I don't have the tec knowledge to really understand the download process. I read that I will have to download these (used two programs: WinRAR from www.rarsoft.com and ImgBurn from www.imgburn.com. Just install both with the default options.) And then, I think burn to a disk (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KX592IQUthe). But were I run in to my lack of knowledge is that when I go to the WinRAR/ImgBurn sits, I'm not sure what to do/look for to download.

I'm trying to update my Mk4 (in a Range Rover) that has V.26 to the V.28.

Any help (Keep it Simple) would be gratefully excepted..

Mark

I'm a newbie at this so thanks shoimin for the instructions. I have 2006 US X5 with MkIV DVD like Dataready.

So my first question is those that have been successful at this is yours a MkIV DVD?

if you were successful did it end up in Euro mode ?

don't understand quote above about BMW assist "keep it properly coded"

Thanks in advance for any replies
Dennis