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KiwiJochen 12-26-2006 05:54 AM

Changing splash screen on a Mk3 - here's how
 
I did this on mine today, just to proove to everyone it can be done :-)

Full instructions and photos are here:
http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/293615

Jochen

jammykam 12-29-2006 11:28 PM

Thanks for the info Jochen. I figured out the usw_load part (well, I hadn't verified since it killed the mk3, I edited all 3 using NavTweak though) but hadn't realised about the mode2 burning. I used UltraIso which changed the cdd image from mode2 to mode1.

Well, mk3 is dead at moment, but trying to revive with a mode1 disk and modified startup screen probably doesn't help :rolleyes:

Will gice this a go tomorrow :nervous:

KiwiJochen 12-31-2006 05:00 PM

Any luck?

jammykam 01-01-2007 08:07 PM

I've not had any luck with this unfortunately. My first port of call was to fix the broken system, so I loaded a v22.1 disk (unmodified) which brought it back to life. I then tried it with a v23 modified disk and so far no luck. I wasted a few disks cos I'd burnt it wrong. I noticed you can create a mode2 cd using Nero, but that one didn't work either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen
Command line was
mode2cdmaker.exe -o "image" -v "NAV_SW" -e "dat" -ccd -f
I used m2cdmgui.exe (UbiK mode2cdmaker GUI v1.6)

When you used mode2cdmaker, I assume you used something like UltraIso to extract all the files, modified the usw_load file and then 'dragged & dropped' to the mode2cdmaker gui. If I drap&drop the iso, it just makes another image with an iso in, not the files. I assume after the '-f' you had a whole bunch of other stuff there as well.

When going up from v22, do I need to go down to something lower (to less than software 3-1/63, i.e. v21) and then back up again. Or should using a v23 disk cause it to reload? Reason I ask is because v23 has the same software 3-1/63 on it as well.

It's weird cos when the mk3 was dead, it did exactly what you said and the disk would not eject. With the new disks it just spits them straight back out again, so i assume i am doing something wrong in burning the disk.

I'm fairly happy to give any suggestions a try, now that I know I have a working v22.1 disk, at least I know it will revive should something go wrong!

thanks and happy new year.

KiwiJochen 01-02-2007 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammykam
I've not had any luck with this unfortunately. My first port of call was to fix the broken system, so I loaded a v22.1 disk (unmodified) which brought it back to life.

v22.1 would have been Mode2/Form1

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammykam
I then tried it with a v23 modified disk and so far no luck. I wasted a few disks cos I'd burnt it wrong. I noticed you can create a mode2 cd using Nero, but that one didn't work either.

Probably has wrong TOC. You need correct TOC for nav to recognise CD.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammykam
When you used mode2cdmaker, I assume you used something like UltraIso to extract all the files, modified the usw_load file and then 'dragged & dropped' to the mode2cdmaker gui.

Correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammykam
If I drap&drop the iso, it just makes another image with an iso in, not the files.

Of course. You tried to make a image with one .ISO file :-)
Don't make an image of an image.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammykam
I assume after the '-f' you had a whole bunch of other stuff there as well.

-f means file name. every file has the -f in front of it. The GUI makes the command line for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammykam
When going up from v22, do I need to go down to something lower (to less than software 3-1/63, i.e. v21) and then back up again. Or should using a v23 disk cause it to reload? Reason I ask is because v23 has the same software 3-1/63 on it as well.

If you have 3-1/63 loaded, then it won't load anything newer.
I made my modified OS CD v3-1/64, to ensure it would be loaded.
Or just give it the wildcard 00 version (3-1/00) and it will load regardless.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammykam
It's weird cos when the mk3 was dead, it did exactly what you said and the disk would not eject. With the new disks it just spits them straight back out again, so i assume i am doing something wrong in burning the disk.

Wrong TOC. Nav system looks for certain files in the Table Of Contents (TOC). Thats what the modified mode2cdmaker does, it writes the correct TOC.

Regards, Jochen

jammykam 01-02-2007 08:54 AM

Hi Jochen

Looks like I need to modify the sw version then, is it in the usw_load file? I'll do a search to find out what string to change, do remember reading this before.

I've sent you a PM with my email address, could you email (or put on megaupload) the modified mode2cdmaker that you are using.

Thanks,
Kam

KiwiJochen 01-02-2007 01:54 PM

Instructions are all here:
http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/293615

jammykam 01-02-2007 05:44 PM

Jochen, brilliant stuff mate, you seem to have done the impossible and updated the logo of a mk3 system! :bow: :thumbup:

I can verify this works, I've just created a "v3-1/64" disk (modded v23 disk) and loaded with a custom splash screen. Woohoo!

You need Jochen's updated mode2cdmaker so that it writes the correct TOC. I've uploaded to rapidshare http://rapidshare.com/files/9948166/...maker.rar.html

If you need a easy to use hex editor try http://www.chmaas.handshake.de/delph...2.htm#download
It's freeware and you don't need to "install" it and clutter up your system.

Jochen, one thing I have noticed now though is that the splash screen doesn't come up straight away (i.e. when I open the door), only very briefly when I put the key in. I'm gonna keep checking this. I know it isn't anything to do with your instructions since other users have complained about it. My splash screen is actually smaller than the original ==BMW== one, so guessing it is not that. Any ideas?

thanks again, you're a genius :thumbup:

KiwiJochen 01-02-2007 08:37 PM

Splash screen comes up when nav is booting only.

So if you turn off ignition, and then turn imediately back on, you get no splash screen, as nav is already booted.

But if you unlock car, wait a bit for nav to boot, open drivers door - splash screen will show.

This is all linked to the boot process for the nav computer. Can't change it :-)

Glad you got your Mk3 working !! Yay....

Symbian 01-03-2007 03:20 PM

Hi all, hi Jochen

I didn't understand what and where should I change in hex editor to get a "wild" version of sw so I haven't to charge a previous version before charge modified mine...
Someone can explain me please?
Thnks

KiwiJochen 01-03-2007 04:51 PM

Imagine you have v6.3 software

You can upgrade by either changing the software version to v6.4, OR or v0.0

Software version is stored in first 4 bytes of...
sw_rel.tbl
lng_rel.tbl
...both located in Mk3/0116/BMWC01S directory

When you look with a hex editor it will be easy to understand :-)

Symbian 01-03-2007 06:37 PM

Ok Joc
maybe I understand, but Mk3/0116/BMWC01S directory is open in every language and every system?
I.E. You have US language in your system, and I have italian ;)
Does sw charge the same directory in both case?
Thnks

KiwiJochen 01-03-2007 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Symbian
Ok Joc
maybe I understand, but Mk3/0116/BMWC01S directory is open in every language and every system?
I.E. You have US language in your system, and I have italian ;)
Does sw charge the same directory in both case?
Thnks

The OS is not language dependent. The language files are loaded separately. You can use my NavCoder app to select langauges - and you can change languages any time.

On my car, to find out what directory the OS would load from (because I did not know), I labeled the MENU text with the directory name, and made a different usw_load one for each directory. Then I loaded the SW in my car, and saw that my car loaded from the 0116 directory.

See picture in my posts here:
http://www.bimmersport.co.nz/forums/...showtopic=9033

I suggest you try the same, let me know which directory your car loads from

Jochen

Symbian 01-04-2007 05:49 AM

Hi Jochen...always kind...:)
I'll try out wich dir my nav system loads from.

So, where I can find your NavCoder app to change language?

Last question...I made a copy of an .iso file (I extracted all files in a folder on the desktop simply with a right click on file, then "extract to...", and I choosed the folder made before...is this right? I have WinRar installed) with your modified mode2isomaker in mode2...but it created three files: an .iso, an .toc, an .cue.
Trying to load image with ImgBurn, it recognize only .iso file and say me that is a mode2 etc.
What should I do with the other files (.toc and .cue)?
Thanks

ekonet 01-04-2007 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Symbian
Hi Jochen...always kind...:)
I'll try out wich dir my nav system loads from.

So, where I can find your NavCoder app to change language?

Last question...I made a copy of an .iso file (I extracted all files in a folder on the desktop simply with a right click on file, then "extract to...", and I choosed the folder made before...is this right? I have WinRar installed) with your modified mode2isomaker in mode2...but it created three files: an .iso, an .toc, an .cue.
Trying to load image with ImgBurn, it recognize only .iso file and say me that is a mode2 etc.
What should I do with the other files (.toc and .cue)?
Thanks

Nothing....

KiwiJochen 01-04-2007 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Symbian
Hi Jochen...always kind...:)
I'll try out wich dir my nav system loads from.

So, where I can find your NavCoder app to change language?

Last question...I made a copy of an .iso file (I extracted all files in a folder on the desktop simply with a right click on file, then "extract to...", and I choosed the folder made before...is this right? I have WinRar installed) with your modified mode2isomaker in mode2...but it created three files: an .iso, an .toc, an .cue.
Trying to load image with ImgBurn, it recognize only .iso file and say me that is a mode2 etc.
What should I do with the other files (.toc and .cue)?
Thanks

Ignore th TOC and CUE files, you don't need them. Just the ISO needs to be burnt.

KiwiJochen 01-04-2007 03:42 PM

NavCoder is here
http://www.xoutpost.com/nav/NavCoder1.1.zip

Symbian 01-04-2007 05:36 PM

Thanks again.:thumbup:

ekonet 01-05-2007 05:38 AM

how to crate a file ISO, I make it, but create iso inside another iso.....

Symbian 01-05-2007 06:05 AM

Ekonet... first you have to extract the original .iso file with a sw, such as MagicIso, then you take all extracted files and then you can make a new .iso file ;) as teached me Jochen :bow: :thumbup:

ekonet 01-05-2007 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Symbian
Ekonet... first you have to extract the original .iso file with a sw, such as MagicIso, then you take all extracted files and then you can make a new .iso file ;) as teached me Jochen :bow: :thumbup:

Symbian allready i make it, now I record iso with DVDDecryter 1x etc... and MK returs me Disk... don't change logo.. nothing... I make ISO in MODE2 and selected type is ASCCI. default selectection. What I making wrong????

Symbian 01-05-2007 09:00 AM

Wich Mk version do you have?3 or 4?
Software version?
If you have an Mk3, so you need .iso in mode2 otherwise is not necessary.

ekonet 01-05-2007 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Symbian
Wich Mk version do you have?3 or 4?
Software version?
If you have an Mk3, so you need .iso in mode2 otherwise is not necessary.


I have Mk3 and Mk4, Im looking for MK3, I made ISO in mode2, but when I tried to put in mk, mk returns disk, without changes in unit.

Symbian 01-05-2007 01:05 PM

:dunno:
Take a look HERE

jammykam 01-05-2007 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekonet
how to crate a file ISO, I make it, but create iso inside another iso.....

ekonet, I had the same problem. I was extracting the usw_load files from the disk, changing them then re-inserting them back into the iso file. What you have to do is extract ALL the files from the disk and then change the usw_load files. I changed all of them since I did not know which directory my nav unit was taking the files from, folders 0103, 0116 and 0127. If it is updating the software but failing to update the logo then update all the usw_load files since yours may be taking the update from one of the other directories.

Once this is done use mode2cdmaker (the edited version made by Jochen, I posted link earlier) and drag and drop ALL the files to gui and then follow Jochen's instructions.

Symbian, I take it from your posts that you have managed to revive your mk3 and get the logo on as well. Yay!

Jochen, from the other thread, you manged to change the menu text. Which file did you edit to do that. Looks very slick and yet more customisation :thumbup: :smokin:

Also, going sightly off topic, well done on the NavCoder app BTW, very neat. And NavSpeak. Wow, we can't be far from being able to test everything on our PC being updating the software! I was considering getting a iBus interface, but not sure how much use it would be to me. If I could do other things with it (like add on one of the extra options, i.e. auto roof down from key, open windows etc) the would consider it. Do you know if this is possible.

One of the things that is tucked away but annoys me if whehn you update the software the VIN number and vehicle model changes. I know you can change from NavCoder, is it not possible to hack some hex code into the update desk somewhere?

thanks
Kam

KiwiJochen 01-05-2007 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammykam
I changed all of them since I did not know which directory my nav unit was taking the files from, folders 0103, 0116 and 0127.

I found on my Mk3 that the HW Version = directory number.
My Mk3 was HW Version 116, so loaded from 116 directory

Have a look in the service menu (Set, then press-and-hold Menu) and look at Nav/graphic service menu. It shows the HW version

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammykam
Jochen, from the other thread, you manged to change the menu text. Which file did you edit to do that. Looks very slick and yet more customisation

Menu text for all 6 languages is also stored in usw_load file.
Use NavTweak v2.6 to edit the text.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammykam
If I could do other things with it (like add on one of the extra options, i.e. auto roof down from key, open windows etc) the would consider it. Do you know if this is possible.

If it is a standard BMW option then it is a question of programming, and yes, everything is possible when I find out the right ibus commands

If not a standard option then you must make hardware to manage the code. I am thinking of making a basicstamp to do this...

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammykam
One of the things that is tucked away but annoys me if whehn you update the software the VIN number and vehicle model changes. I know you can change from NavCoder, is it not possible to hack some hex code into the update desk somewhere?

No, the nav unit needs recoding to change these settings. Thats what I made NavCoder for. But on my car the settings have not changed from v6.3 to v6.4 and v6.5 (all new images, new text)

Cheers, Jochen (currently my E39 is in pieces while I fit the OEM trailer light control module)

ralphy4321 01-06-2007 12:14 AM

hello jochen
 
hi i dont know how to do this, can you do it for me, i have MK3 v3 1/63 can i make a splash screen of my kids, if i send u a pic can you do it for me, and i can send you payment via paypal or something..

KiwiJochen 01-06-2007 03:30 AM

OK, I will send you a private msg or email

Symbian 01-06-2007 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen
I found on my Mk3 that the HW Version = directory number.
My Mk3 was HW Version 116, so loaded from 116 directory

Have a look in the service menu (Set, then press-and-hold Menu) and look at Nav/graphic service menu. It shows the HW version

Jochen = the best...:thumbup:

Symbian 01-06-2007 04:47 AM

Hi guys, here I'm

I found this OBD connector to interface my car with only three of four pins that Resler's module has, so I don't need to remove cd reader in boot.

Which pins among the green ones as shown below, should I use?
Thanks
http://www.baction.it/obd.jpg

Symbian 01-06-2007 05:18 AM

Excuse me if I bore you...:rolleyes:

I downloaded a cdkey image (should be necessary to upgrade from a V17 sw to a newest one) but ImgBurn does not recognize it.
Why?
How can I burn it?
Below two pics of my problem...

Thanks again

Here is the link to get the file if someone wanna try to burn it...

http://www.baction.it/imgcdkey.jpg

http://www.baction.it/imgburn.jpg

KiwiJochen 01-06-2007 06:26 AM

You must use CloneCD to burn this KeyCD image.

The KeyCD cannot be read on a PC. Only some programs can burn the KeyCD image, CloneCD can.

KiwiJochen 01-06-2007 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Symbian
Hi guys, here I'm

I found this OBD connector to interface my car with only three of four pins that Resler's module has, so I don't need to remove cd reader in boot.

Which pins among the green ones as shown below, should I use?
Thanks
http://www.baction.it/obd.jpg

Sorry, OBDII is a different protocol to IBus. The messages would have to be sent in OBDII protocol.

Much easier to go straight to the IBus

Symbian 01-06-2007 06:45 AM

I understand Jochen, I will reach IBus through cd changer ;)
Thnks

Symbian 01-06-2007 10:05 AM

These are the last questions...I promise....:whistle: ;)

If I have a mode2 .iso burnt image, then I open it with MgicIso, extract from .iso some files, I modify the files with Navtweak, finally put my modified files, through MagicISO, in the iso file again...saving .iso file Magic tell me "calculate CRC..." then it save my modified .iso.
Is this a correct procedure or trying to upgrading navi something can goes wrong?
Once modified from mode1 to mode2 an iso file it always remain in mode 2?
The files I modified, are always in mode2 or became mode1?

These below are the 4 hex I must change in 0000 to get a "wild" sw?

Thanks, thanks, thanks...

http://www.baction.it/release.jpg

KiwiJochen 01-06-2007 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Symbian
These are the last questions...I promise....:whistle: ;)

If I have a mode2 .iso burnt image, then I open it with MgicIso, extract from .iso some files, I modify the files with Navtweak, finally put my modified files, through MagicISO, in the iso file again...saving .iso file Magic tell me "calculate CRC..." then it save my modified .iso.
Is this a correct procedure or trying to upgrading navi something can goes wrong?
Once modified from mode1 to mode2 an iso file it always remain in mode 2?
The files I modified, are always in mode2 or became mode1?

These below are the 4 hex I must change in 0000 to get a "wild" sw?

Thanks, thanks, thanks...

http://www.baction.it/release.jpg

YouIf you are sure the image you have is already Mode2 then you can drag and drop the files out of and back into MagicISO. This is what I did last night. Make sure you keep original files names (MagicISO -> File-Properties-Optimize - Keep the original file name)

Then burn it, and verify afterwards that you did burn a Mode2/Form1 CD. I find Nero InfoTool tells me if it is a Mode2/Form1 CD.

The image will stay as Mode2 - but always check after you burn the CD that the CD really is a Mode2 CD.

Yes those 4 bytes are right. Mkae sure ou do both sw_rel.tbl and lng_rel.tbl

scooba0010 01-06-2007 02:51 PM

Hi Kiwi can you help
 
I have always wanted satnav in my x5 .I wish i had spec on ordering but didnt on enquiring at local dealer about retro fit i was told no way you req new dash etc etc ,Then i find x5 world it seems it can be done and has been there are oem kits available so it must be possible,Next problem i am not brave enough to tackle the job but iv found a guy who claims its easy and will undertake the whole project 2hrs ? but is pushing me to have mk3 and 16.9 with radio/tape .I asked can i have with cd up front and was told not available in x5 only e46/3 series ?? .it seems some members claim he is ok and then i was warned he uses rover mk3 cd drive that cant be updated item is locked what is your opinion ? surely i could have what i want mk4 and cd thanks for any help

Symbian 01-06-2007 05:20 PM

Ok, thanks a lot.

jammykam 01-07-2007 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen
On my car, to find out what directory the OS would load from (because I did not know), I labeled the MENU text with the directory name, and made a different usw_load one for each directory.

Jochen, when you changed the menu text, I assume you just changed the MENU text with "MENU Jochen 540i dir 0116". I assume there's no way to centre it so you just spaced it out. Do you know how many characters fit on that line, so I can roughly guess how many characters to space it by to centre it.

thanks
Kam

KiwiJochen 01-07-2007 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooba0010
I have always wanted satnav in my x5 .I wish i had spec on ordering but didnt on enquiring at local dealer about retro fit i was told no way you req new dash etc etc ,Then i find x5 world it seems it can be done and has been there are oem kits available so it must be possible,Next problem i am not brave enough to tackle the job but iv found a guy who claims its easy and will undertake the whole project 2hrs ? but is pushing me to have mk3 and 16.9 with radio/tape .I asked can i have with cd up front and was told not available in x5 only e46/3 series ?? .it seems some members claim he is ok and then i was warned he uses rover mk3 cd drive that cant be updated item is locked what is your opinion ? surely i could have what i want mk4 and cd thanks for any help

Every X5 can have navigation. There is a retro-fit kit available from BMW. No new dash required.

I have no experience with the Rover Mk3. Insist on a BMW Mk3. Tghe Mk4 and Mk3 are plug-and-play exchangable.

2hrs for install sounds far too fast. The BMW retro-fit instructions state approx 8 hours and that is for a BMW workshop with tools and experience!

Remember - a new cable loo has to be fitted from the radio at the front to the nav unit location at the back; you have to remove seats, lift carpet, remove boot lining etc. Takes time.

Cheers, Jochen

KiwiJochen 01-07-2007 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammykam
Jochen, when you changed the menu text, I assume you just changed the MENU text with "MENU Jochen 540i dir 0116". I assume there's no way to centre it so you just spaced it out. Do you know how many characters fit on that line, so I can roughly guess how many characters to space it by to centre it.
Kam

You assume correctly - I just typed in a bunch of spaces - not sure how many. dunnon how many charcaters will fit - you have to try and see

jammykam 01-07-2007 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen
You assume correctly - I just typed in a bunch of spaces - not sure how many. dunnon how many charcaters will fit - you have to try and see

Cool, I'll give it a go, a very nice touch, well done for finding all this info out. I'm more confident now messing around (and killing the unit) since I know I have working copies to reload the software!

Still gotta put the mk3 back into my mates car, it's horrible compared to the mk4. Missing my perspective and quicker loading times :(

The screen is coming up perfect now BTW, needs a couple of seconds before pressing the key and opening the door and it is there :D

Glad you helped me sort it though, woulda seen the new year in with the cost of replacement otherwise :thumbup:

Going back to programming via the iBus, here is a list of some of the options that can be programmed to the key http://www.e38.org/E38-Options.pdf

I want some of these options added, the seat memory options in particular. I already got the auto locking done, and at £20 a pop, it's cheaper to buy the interface from reslers.

Also some of the options the dealer will not add on, for example closing the hood from the remote control. Their BMW software will not allow it. I know it is possible since a friend of mine got his TV unlocked, roof auto open/close and mirrors to fold up programmed by some guy. I assume this is all controlled via the iBus.

Maybe this is something that can be done using CarSoft, not sure if you have used that or not. I assume this uses a OBDII cable though, and not the iBus.

So before the summer comes back to the UK for a week, I wanna try doing it myself if possible before handing over me cash!

notease 02-15-2007 12:20 PM

Will this also work on a MK4 ?
I did found out i need to edit NAVBOOT file for changing text, (But there aroudn 4 navboot files ??)
and what file for MK4 to change splash screen ?
It is the usw_load for text&logo on MK3...

KiwiJochen 02-15-2007 02:07 PM

All instructions are here:
http://www.xoutpost.com/navigation-sy...-navtweak.html

notease 02-15-2007 04:36 PM

Many thanks for your help Jochen, did learned a lot.
I stumbled to a problem, the spoken & txt lanuage change for a MKIV is totaly clear for me, but didnt found a good know-how for changing them both on a MKIII. Using TweakNav i can edit the TXT-fields for the MKIII file but i understand that renaming the voice files for a MKIII does not work.

There are a few MK3xxxx voice files on the ISO (not even a NL/DUTCH) file in there i think also strange,only GB,DE and more)

Benno 03-10-2007 12:52 PM

Hey Notease

If you want to change the spoken lanuage you proberly have to get the VDO lanuage CD that are being usede to change lanuage on the VDO I-CQ systems , there are a NL lanuage file ( nl_f.csf ) you can use to change the D or GB voice. ( d_f.csf or gb_f.csf )
If you want to change the written text I ges you have to maualy change the text in the D or GB string and that line by line using the NawTweak 2.6.

The voise fil for MK-III are you finding at the softwear map/file : langMK3/ 0501

I have changede the splash screen , the text and also the voice to Danish .

Her throug at GREAT thanks to all the gays hue made this posibol , a specaly thanks to KiwiJochen , keep up your great work :-)

Best regards from Denmark

Thorsten 07-28-2007 04:03 PM

HI,

I have a problem to make a mode 2 CD.
I used the mode2cdmaker GUI, but when I all the folders and files from the modified firmware cd insert, then did I get a error from the programm, that the mode2cdmaker.exe couldn´t find.
Did I insert only one folder or one file, than works the programm fine.

Could somebody help me?

Benno 07-28-2007 05:01 PM

Hi Thorsten

I had the same problem , but I found out , wen I did take the modified softwear fils/folders and moved it to a memory stick ( 1 GB ) and then opend the mode2maker , and movede the modified softwear fils/folders from the memory stick to the mode2maker then I was abel to make a mode2 Image Fil that I could burn wiht Alcohol to a CD that then worked.

NB: MK-III reads only god data CD`s , so perhaps you must try different types befor it scuceed.

Hope you could read and understand my Englisch :-)

Greetings from Denmark

Thorsten 07-29-2007 05:43 AM

HI,

now, I have checked it - I copied all files to a usb stick and convert with the software an image.
That works, but the software cd doesn`t work in the MKIII nav system.

The display knows, that this is a software cd, this is written on the screen. Then, after five seconds, the screens is black and the navsystem hang up.
What could be the problem?

Thorsten

Benno 07-29-2007 01:11 PM

Hi Thorsten

Hard to say , how long have you waited ? normaly it write " Softweart im Navigationsrechner - Softwear wird geladen" , then the screen goes black for some time ( up to a minut ) then the programing procedeur proceed ( hauptsache gedult ! :-) )

But what have you alterd in the softwear ? , just the "start up screen image " ( image must be in GIF format ) or have you alterd somting in the speech fils to ?. , have you used ISO ultra ? ( then it dosent work !!! ) , you have too alter dirictly from the desktop/folder.

Can bee that the CD-rom ( CD-R ) you have burned the Image on , not are good , I burn on Taiyo Yuden CD-R , thy are working fine in all the MK-III`s I have treid them in.

Thorsten 07-29-2007 03:00 PM

HI,

the CD-Rs, which I have take, works fine with the MKIII navisystem.
I have checked this with another firmware release.

I copied all files from the firmware V28 cd, which have made the latest software V23 to my MKIII, to my computer disk.
Then, I have changed the starup logo to another .gif file and changed the firmware version vom 6.3 to 6.4 - thats all.

Then, I made a mode2 disc with the mode2cdmaker and burned with imgburn.

But when should I use ISO ultra?

Thorsten

Benno 07-30-2007 04:00 PM

Hi Thorsten

I Traid to sendt you a PM , but your mailbox seems full :-(

NB: Iso Ultra can be used wenn altering the MK-IV softwear.

Thorsten 07-30-2007 04:02 PM

HI,

my mailbox is now cleaned, thanks for the information!

Thorsten

daytonaviolet 08-22-2007 02:26 AM

can someone post the MkIII os for me. im trying to help a friend restore his MkII setup. he accidently installed v28 which was intended for only MkIV setup and now his nav screen is all white. i hoping a working MkIII os will fix it. thanks...

daytonaviolet 08-23-2007 12:17 AM

** bump ** anyone :rolleyes:

Benno 08-23-2007 10:31 AM

Hello

Here you can get ( download ) the OS V26.0 that can be used for the MK-III .



http://www.xoutpost.com/articles/all-...ng-system.html

tomentoza 09-06-2007 04:10 PM

And I did it :) Thanks KiwiJochen :thumbup:
http://www.picvalley.net/u/34/8305_010.JPG

330l0ver 09-17-2007 05:32 PM

cant get the navtweel to open
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen
I did this on mine today, just to proove to everyone it can be done :-)

Full instructions and photos are here:
http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/293615

Jochen

Hi Jochen I cant seem to get the program to open can you help

KiwiJochen 09-18-2007 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 330l0ver
Hi Jochen I cant seem to get the program to open can you help

Did you follow the NavTweak instructions to install the GDK runtime environment?

330l0ver 09-18-2007 01:32 AM

Hi Jochen , what instruction there were none that i saw or can see can you tell me where they are please. Maybe im a bit blind,

KiwiJochen 09-18-2007 01:42 AM

Very first post of the NavTweak thread. Tells you to install GDK.

ajlb 05-09-2008 05:42 PM

SPITS DISK
 
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Quote:

It's weird cos when the mk3 was dead, it did exactly what you said and the disk would not eject. With the new disks it just spits them straight back out again, so i assume i am doing something wrong in burning the disk.




Quote:

Originally Posted by jammykam
Jochen, brilliant stuff mate, you seem to have done the impossible and updated the logo of a mk3 system! :bow: :thumbup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammykam

I can verify this works, I've just created a "v3-1/64" disk (modded v23 disk) and loaded with a custom splash screen. Woohoo!

You need Jochen's updated mode2cdmaker so that it writes the correct TOC. I've uploaded to rapidshare http://rapidshare.com/files/9948166/...maker.rar.html

If you need a easy to use hex editor try http://www.chmaas.handshake.de/delph...2.htm#download
It's freeware and you don't need to "install" it and clutter up your system.

Jochen, one thing I have noticed now though is that the splash screen doesn't come up straight away (i.e. when I open the door), only very briefly when I put the key in. I'm gonna keep checking this. I know it isn't anything to do with your instructions since other users have complained about it. My splash screen is actually smaller than the original ==BMW== one, so guessing it is not that. Any ideas?

thanks again, you're a genius :thumbup:


I have this same situation as jammykam, my CD spits the DISK!

I made CD v29 mode2 using GUI 1.6(changing language,text menu, hex editor -all), but it dosen t working...


jammykam upload mode2cdmaker.exe that he used http://rapidshare.com/files/9948166/...maker.rar.html

but it os only 1 file, there is no GUI files...What should I do ? I dont know how to use this text mode2cdmaker.exe...The files is too many in soft v29 to each of this files write the command line

mode2cdmaker.exe -o "image" -v "NAV_SW" -e "dat" -ccd -f



I got FULL m2cdmgui16.zip, this folder contain many files like m2cdmgui.exe mode2cdmaker.exe and others... MY IDEA IS TO SWITCH FILE UPLOADED BY jammykam (mode2cdmaker.exe) TO FILE IN MY FULL m2cdmgui16.zip (mode2cdmaker.exe) Am i right ? And the everythink should go right, am I right ?

btw. I read 100x time this:
http://www.bimmerboard.com/forums/posts/293615
http://www.xoutpost.com/246230-post14.html
http://www.xoutpost.com/navigation-sy...ght=mk3+splash

and others... plz help :(

ccfj1 05-10-2008 08:16 AM

Ajlb,

Not sure what your problem is mate, you say the cd just ejects all the time??

Sounds to me like you are trying to update with a modded disc that has the same revision number as the one in the nav computer.

Does your mk3 have 3-1/63 installed? if so v22,v23,v24,v25,v25,v27,v28,v29,v30,v31 will not work as the basis for the nav update unless you change the reveision number or you will need to downgrade to v21, the update with your modded v28, assuming thet you have done the mods correctly and have written it in the correct mode for the mk3.

If you like, post up the pic you want and I'll make you up a modded update disc with the splash screen and a modded revision number as well as in the correct mode for the MK3 (so it will just work), and post it up somewhere for you to download.

HTH

ajlb 05-13-2008 08:04 AM

thanks for repsonse, I did it :) I made CD v29 (v64 in mk3) and it is works. I download mode2cdmaker.exe from here(link by jammykam)

http://rapidshare.com/files/9948166/...maker.rar.html

replace this files(44kb), then use gui 1.6 and CD is working :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccfj1
Ajlb,

Not sure what your problem is mate, you say the cd just ejects all the time??

Sounds to me like you are trying to update with a modded disc that has the same revision number as the one in the nav computer.

Does your mk3 have 3-1/63 installed? if so v22,v23,v24,v25,v25,v27,v28,v29,v30,v31 will not work as the basis for the nav update unless you change the reveision number or you will need to downgrade to v21, the update with your modded v28, assuming thet you have done the mods correctly and have written it in the correct mode for the mk3.

If you like, post up the pic you want and I'll make you up a modded update disc with the splash screen and a modded revision number as well as in the correct mode for the MK3 (so it will just work), and post it up somewhere for you to download.

HTH


Baza 06-10-2008 09:36 AM

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An old pic in topic are removed.Please write me about this.
See my pic-i made right?
And please write how use mode2cdmaker .exe:confused:

asaseaban 06-15-2008 09:21 AM

Hex editor
 
When i open with the hex editor, the first line reads 0630ap_sw/

Where do i make the change?

asaseaban 06-15-2008 09:52 AM

Hex editor screen shots
 
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Here are some screen shots of how to use hex editor to change the software version.

ecru 08-07-2008 10:08 AM

MK3 update problem
 
Hello,
It's my first post here on this forum and I'd like to say hi to everyone.

I thought that I'll be able to solve this problem by myself but it seems that it's too difficult.

I’m trying to change splash screen on MK3. I’ve read few times all information available in net especially on this forum.
I made everything step by step. Changed usw_load file by navtweak program, changed both .tbl files ( first time to higher version, second to ‘wild’ one ). I’ve prepared mode2 version using mode2maker…and so on. Finally I even downgraded my navi OS to 3-1/61, believed that will help me to upgrade soft much easier. But no….
I’ve made it with versions: 21, 22, 27, 27.1, 28, 29. Each time occurs this same problem.

CD drive, turn disc few times and eject one without any info on the screen. What’s going on?
Is there any solution for this issue ?

Help me please I’ve destroyed lot of CDs and haven’t any idea how to solve this.
Really I’ve read all info about similar problems on this forum, but there wasn’t any solutions.

ccfj1 08-07-2008 10:15 AM

Welcome to the forum, not sure what your problem is but post up the pic that you want and I'll make you an update image with the correct version number and splash.

ecru 08-07-2008 10:29 AM

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Really, thank you very much !!!
My problem is that my navi doesn't read any modified CD. But all downloaded CD images - without any problems. Why?

I'd like to change my splash screen at picture below. Could you?

http://www.xoutpost.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1218119028

ccfj1 08-07-2008 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecru
Really, thank you very much !!!

You're welcome.

Quote:

My problem is that my navi doesn't read any modified CD. But all downloaded CD images - without any problems. Why?
The pic looks a little on the big side, that's maybe the problem?
Quote:

I'd like to change my splash screen at picture below. Could you?
No problem, I've added your pic to the update image, so here yer go mate, download, unzip, then use imgburn to burn to a good quality CD-R use the slowest rated speed of the blank and follow the update procedure.

When its finished writing your new firmware cd,
Goto the car open the drivers door,
Goto the nav computer and press eject on drive,
Eject the map disc,
Switch ign to pos 1, leave door open.
Insert firmware disc into drive, follow instruction on nav screen.
Wait (approx 6 mins) till sat nav asks to eject cd and reboot.
Eject cd,
Confirm reboot.

Thats it.

Do not switch off ignition or close the door when doing the upgrade.

HTH

ecru 08-07-2008 12:20 PM

ccfj1 - You're the one !!!! ;-)

Amazing, but it works !!!!

Thank you very much - looks great.

ccfj1 08-07-2008 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecru
ccfj1 - You're the one !!!! ;-)

Amazing, but it works !!!!

lol,that's great mate, post a pic of the result.

Quote:

Thank you very much - looks great.
You're very welcome, glad to help.

ecru 08-08-2008 04:29 AM

new splash screen
 
3 Attachment(s)
Done ;-)
I made those photos yesterday evening by my phone, so the quality isn't very fine, but you can see effect.

First img is a new splash, second new ver. appears and third shows that all functions are available.

ccfj1 08-08-2008 04:24 PM

Very nice my friend, looks good.

jester27 10-07-2008 11:47 AM

Hello,
I have been reading this thread with great interest.
I recently bought a Rover75 (from when BMW were making them) with the Hi-Line 4:3 Sat nav in but my splash screen shows BMW on booting up, I would very much like to change this to a nice Rover Logo.
My Drive is a Mk3 with BMW firmware 3-1/63 with the splitscreen option (which i would like to keep as the Rover firmware is naff)

I really havent got a clue where to start on modifying a disk etc. and I understand i would need to install an earlier firmware to enable me update again to the latest version.

Would anyone please be able to help me make the disk images i would need to do this.
I have tried the rover forums but they all point me over here to you nice chaps..

many thanks...Dean

PS - I am after something like this (don't know if this would have to be cropped or changed to fit my 4:3 screen ???)

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2.../RoverLogo.jpg

Jaycee 10-07-2008 09:32 PM

Jester - you have the image right there, and of the correct 400 x 234 size. Just change it to a .gif image and you're sorted. Replace the existing ===BMW=== .gif image using NavTweak in the file detailed by the link and instructions from KiwiJochen in the first post of this topic.

Obviously you will have to manually edit the software version to force an update, as Jochen did by using 6.40 in the above info. Once you've made all the necessary adjustments burn it (Mode 2 - important for a MK III unit!) and load it. If you don't understand any of what I've just said, or the advice given originally by Jochen, or with burning images, I wouldn't attempt it without step by step assistance.

jester27 10-08-2008 07:22 AM

Thanks Jaycee,

still a bit daunting trying to work out all the stuff.
will try and have a look though, I am just scared of bricking my unit by getting it wrong.

Dean

jester27 10-08-2008 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jester27
Thanks Jaycee,

still a bit daunting trying to work out all the stuff.
will try and have a look though, I am just scared of bricking my unit by getting it wrong.

Dean

WHO'S THE DADDY.....!

that was really easy, thank you, thank you, thank you.... :bow:
will have to point more of the Rover guys over here for help.

Dean :D

Jaycee 10-08-2008 07:29 PM

Jester - you seem to have worked it all out pretty quickly, give us the rundown.

jester27 10-09-2008 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaycee
Jester - you seem to have worked it all out pretty quickly, give us the rundown.

I really did just follow the instructions on the 1st page of this thread and took my time.
there is nothing really that i can say that isn't already in that link on the 1st page.

Just take your time and have a go..

dean

Jaycee 10-09-2008 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jester27

I really did just follow the instructions on the 1st page of this thread and took my time.

dean

Eh up Jester, you got it in one, so many people rush into stuff like this and end up "knackin" their nav systems, so well done. Good on yer!

jester27 10-09-2008 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaycee
Eh up Jester, you got it in one, so many people rush into stuff like this and end up "knackin" their nav systems, so well done. Good on yer!

:iagree:

Cheers Jaycee

MrLova 02-28-2009 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen
I did this on mine today, just to proove to everyone it can be done :-)

Full instructions and photos are here:
Here's the instructions in brief

Jochen

Jochen, its not so easy

the original iso and iso from You in MagicISO,properties looks so:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3531/orgf.png


Iso maked by mode2cdmaker looks so:


http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5289/mojey.png


My MK3 things the CD is empty.
What i have to do to change it?

sry for my english :(
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/mojey.png/1/w402.png

MrLova 02-28-2009 07:30 AM

OK.
I use wrong mode2cdmaker. Great thx for KiwiJohen.Good job :)

adi320 05-17-2009 06:14 AM

here is what I did to try to change my MK3 from mono to color:

First tried a mode1 mk4 nav software that worked for my mk4 and killed the Mk3. Then used original v29.mdf(mode1) and recovered.

Then tried the following:

1. opened v29.mdf(mode2) with magic iso, replaced all the files in MK3 and CSB dirs with those from BMWCO1S, saved mode2 mdf, burned and did not work! the mk3 returns the disc back when inserted.

2. copied all the files from v29.mdf(mode2) to desktop, replaced all the files in MK3 and CSB dirs with those from BMWCO1S, drag&dropped them into mode2cdmaker, followed all instructions, same problem had, mk3 returned the disc.


Any suggestions please? what am I doing wrong? Thanks.

KiwiJochen 05-17-2009 12:14 PM

Just use NavCoder, sooo much easier, and the change is a proper change, not a hack

J

adi320 05-17-2009 04:04 PM

Thanks KiwiJochen, using Navcoder requires a Laptop and the proper cable to connect to my car, right? if that is the case, I don't have them...

KiwiJochen 05-17-2009 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adi320 (Post 621069)
Any suggestions please? what am I doing wrong? Thanks.

Table of Contents on CD will be wrong. Check and note the TOC from oriignal CD:

Make TOC on new CD the same as original TOC

adi320 05-17-2009 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 621218)
Table of Contents on CD will be wrong. Check and note the TOC from oriignal CD:

Make TOC on new CD the same as original TOC

Thanks a lot.

Boink 01-11-2013 12:20 PM

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Sorry for kicking up this old thread. But im stuck. I am drinving an M3 E46 with 16:9 MK3.

I will explain what i did.

I used V25 from neiloakley.com to edit. I extracted it with poweriso and edited navboot with the attached picture to edit the splashscreen. After that i edited the two files with xvi32 to edit the sw version.

After that i dropped all the files in mode2cdmaker gui and created the image called NAV_SW. Created the image and burnt it with imgburn on lowest speed possible ( 8x supported by cd )

The mk3 system won't accept the cd and it ejects it after inserting. What am i doing wrong?

Boink 01-15-2013 09:07 AM

Nobody can help me? :(

ccfj1 01-15-2013 09:16 AM

I dont know what you are doing wrong mate.

pm me your email address and I will send an image (with the splash pic above) to you.

Herr Rossi 05-26-2013 02:43 PM

Hi, im new here and i burned about 60 cd-r but it wont work @ my mk3 with 3-64 SW (Yes, 64 because i had a modded SW with the M3 Logo, but i want a Logo with my Name or my Car).
Where can i get the mode2maker (the modified one), because i think thats my problem.
thanks and regards
Herr Rossi

..................and sry for my english^^

MarijnE39535I 11-28-2016 05:53 AM

Modified mode2cdmaker
 
Hello guys,

i know i am reviving a very old thread but does anyone
still have the modified mode2cdmaker file?

all rapidshare links are dead...

you can also email it to me: [email protected]

Many many thanks in advance!

ccfj1 11-28-2016 06:13 AM

on its way

MarijnE39535I 11-28-2016 06:29 AM

Thank you very much!!!


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