V29.1 has been released and is now available
 

Hi,

after the install you will get 4/1/91, so this would have to be the V29.1.

?????

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PT4NNB58 or http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TNC9LTY2

Thanks appy. Do you have a list of the changes or updates in this version?

Thanks. :thumbup: I'll test this evening.

If you prefer a torrent, grab it here. http://torrentspy.com/torrent/1097404/BMW_NAV_V29

Oh yes, a changelog would be very interesting and helpful, to determine whether to take the risk of upgrading or not ;) .

Downloaded, unzipped, burned & it buggered my SatNav!!! Beware people.:rolleyes:

Eek! Sorry to hear that. Were you able to flash back to V28?

Anyone succesfully upgraded with this version?

I agree with this question. Why upgrade unless the benifits are spelled out?

v28 vs v29 :) does anyone know the changes yet?

Thanks for the update. Hmmm, appy, are you sure this is not a "beta" version?

can you explain in more detail what happened to your v29 upgrade? did your nav loose sat signals?

Looking at the files, v29 has added NL (Dutch) language support to the Mk4 nav system. The Mk4 now supports 7 languages on the v29:
I Italian
E Spanish
F French
NL Dutch
D German
USA Us English
GB UK English

Hello, can you burn it? i will use the V29.mdf/mds with Alcohol 120%, but there is an error. Can somebody help please? thx, Michael

I got the same error. Invalid .mds file.

You need to upgrade Alcohol to latest version - then it burns!

I have just burned it now with Imgburn and it´s worked out perfect.

It burned perfectly or upgraded perfectly?

Just burned not upgrading the car yet

No problems with V29.1. But I can't recognize real changes.
It seems to me that the announcement in meters up to the next road became more exact.
Anyhow it is V29.1. This is indicated also with the update process.

Tell us now were the problem is, or are you not able to burn a cd:nanana:

Upgrade went fine and showing 4-1/91.

No noticeable changes but the real improvements are needed under the hood, in the routing and dynamic routing algorithms.

So fingers crossed the benefits will become apparent on a long congested drive.

Thanks to appy!

Hmmm, okay it is not a "beta". Wonder what happened to V29? Well, at least we get the latest and greatest!! :)

I burned it w/ Alcohol 120 and loaded it on both my 05 X5 4.8is and 03.5 M3 without any issues. Not sure of any difference though. I guess we'll have to wait for the official statement from BMW.

Worked fine for me, user error I'm afraid.

I can't notice any difference either yet.

After burning V29 I inserted it in the car DVD player. The computer would not recognise the disk. I had trouble ejecting the CD & when I eventually ejected it I had lost my previous V28 OS. I could not re-load V28 so tried V27.1 - neither would load.....

I burned the V29 disk using UltraISO so I'm now going to burn with Alcohol 120% & see what happens:confused:

Currently I have a non-working SatNav!!

European Download Link:

www.bmwsw3.uw.hu

Pass: v29

Very nice, gonna try it this afternoon

Does anyone already have a DUTCH modded version of it (witch replaces default coded ENG language with DUTCH text&voice) ? Or isnt that needed anymore ?

Have you tried disconnecting the battery/pulling fuses.

Is there a way to burn the image with Nero 6?

Can some one upload a ISO.image? Please

Quick and easy burn with ImgBurn. (I highly recommend that utility, more control than with Alcohol 120% or Nero.) Loaded perfectly in my MKIV on the first try. I did not see any obvious changes or improvements in my initial use.

I installed it yesterday and everything works fine. No errors or non-working nav. I used ImgBurn.

Thanks for the hint with ImgBurn. Downloaded ... installed ... burned image ... and updated the Nav in my car. Works perfect! However, I coudn't find any changes so far.

This page requires a password. Any idea what it is?

Never mind. I'm obviously blind.

Rather than wait for the official statement from BMW, anyone have access to the Alldata database? Someone once posted a link to it to get a list of all the BMW TSB's and now it no longer works. You can do a "free" search on it, but for some reason BMW is not one of the listed manufacturers! In any case, it had a number of the older bulletins regarding the Nav updates (ver. 25, 26, 27, etc). I'm sure the latest versions will have been written up already.

I burned a new copy today using Alcohol 120% & it loaded & works perfectly. What a hassle - & for what benefit? I can't see any difference from V28, except the Dutch language.... & I don't speak Dutch - so what the heck! :confused:

@ Winkle

Nevertheless, I am happy to hear that you didn't wreck your sat-nav completely :thumbup:

Update worked perfectly for me, but as the others said: No obvious changes visible.

Burned the Alcohol 120% image with ImgBurn. Updated my nav without any problems. Working fine. No obvious changes.

On a German site they mention following:

"Neuerung gibt keine wirklichen. Die 4-1/91 enthält nur Fehlerbereinigungen in der Telefonbuch verwaltung sowie Bugfixes für USA/Japan-Nutzer."

Freetranslation gives:

"Innovation doesn't give any real ones. The 4-1/91 contain only mistake-adjustments in the telephone book-administration as well as bugfixes for USA / Japan-user."

I updated today but cannot see any changes either.

However http://www.simplymini.info/index.php...v_v291_posted/

V29 update without problems...just do it :)
 

Hello all :thumbup:

I downloaded the v29 as a RAR (archive) file from http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PT4NNB58

Unzipped it using WinRar, and burned it on an ordinary CD media at 4x speed using ImgBurn.

Remember to use the "Verify" option in ImgBurn to validate the contents of the burned CD media prior to attempting any upload in your car.

Updated my MKIV system (fitted on an German E46, 2003, 330 convertible) without any problems. However like most others here I fail to see the difference from v28, but improvements may be hidden in algorithms... somebody will most certainly enlighten us all later on.

Regards
Jesper

confirmed ok install on the x5 and m3. i had to go in the nav hidden menu to re-enable the perspective mode however ( wasnt necessary in the m3).

I found this on the v28 post and used it to load the v29.1, just replaced the v29.1 file where it said to use v28. I think Shoimin wrote this, Thanks it helped me out. It worked fine no problems at all. I went from v27 to v29.1 and loaded first try. Now if I can just update my dvd nav maps as I have the 2005.2. Thanks again to Shoimin and all the great info here at X5World.

Taken from Shoimin's POST: 09-19-2006 at 02:46 PM
"1 - I used two programs: WinRAR from <http://www.rarsoft.com>www.rarsoft.com and ImgBurn from <http://www.imgburn.com>www.imgburn.com. Just install both with the default options.
2 - Download from the megaupload link from above by clicking it, entering the three digit/letter alphanumberic verification code in the space provided, and submit. Once done, wait about 45 seconds. Some ads will probably pop up, obscurring the download link, so just close any windows or floating ads by clicking the 'x'. Click download at the end of 45 seconds and save to disk.
3 - Right click the file that just downloaded, and select 'extract to bmw v28\' and wait a minute for the program to decompress the two files.
4 - Open ImgBurn, insert a CD into your burner (and wait while it spins up0, and under 'Source' click the icon for 'Browse for a file'. From there, point the file browser the location of v28.mds, which was performed in step 3.
5 - I burn max speed, but generally a slower speed results in a more stable burn, so I suggest burning at the minimum speed. Click the giant burn button and let it do its job.
6 - Take the finished cd to the car. I turn the key to the first position and let everything boot and stabilize. I then eject the Navigation Map, insert the cd, and sit and wait in the car. The process claims to take 6 minutes, but it feels far less than that. Once the process finishes, the screen will tell you to remove the cd, which you should and insert back the map disc. Give it a minute to reboot, and it should have finished."

For those preferring an ISO-Image: I remember MAC-users on former updates reported that renaming the bigger file to '*.iso' worked. If not you can use the shareware UltraISO to convert the imagefile.
Today I updated my MINI and accidentally burned the image on a DVD-R and even with highest burning-speed there occured no problems during the update (I was very tired yesterday...).
morbus

A visible change in the V29.1 - window size
 

It is currently being discussed what changes V29.1 really offer :confused:

I have found one visible change on my MKIV system (fitted on a E46, 330). The split screen was previously (using V28) divided 50%/50%. This has changed with V29.1 to 60/40. This is an improvement as the map is placed in the bigger 60% window and the directions in the 40% window.

The split screen relation is 60/40 on my fathers MKIV with V24.1, and mine with V28.0, too.:popcorn:

Ditto. The split screen ratio has been the same on my MKIV for as long as I can remember (at least back to V24.1 as well).

I read the below somewhere. Surely that is a BIG new feature.

"For US vehicles, BMW finally introduced a "search by part of name" feature. We can finally look up a point of interest by name. This is great for finding a particular restaurant or hotel. In the past, the only option was to search for a type of location within a specified distance. Then, you were forced to scroll through all of the options until you found the right one."

"Search by part of name" was in v28. I used it last weekend (and many times before) to look for POI. For example, I entered "in-n" to search for In-N-Out Burgers.

Like everybody else on this board, I've upgraded to v29, no changes noticed. The only thing different from my v28 is that I lost KrisL' new menu text :-(
See http://www.xoutpost.com/navigation-sy...menu-text.html.

KrisL, if you're listening, please give us a new version :-)

Okay, but "search by part of the name" only works when you choose a sub-category under the information section.

Meaning, unlike my aftermarket Alpine nav where you can just type part of a name for any POI, in the BMW NAV OS, you have to choose the sub-category of the POI (such as DINING & ENTERTAINMENT or SHOPPING or PUBLIC PLACES)....once you choose the sub-category, then you can search for part of a name for that particular sub-category.

I guess V29.1 works just like V28 in terms of searching for POIs.

I will try it out, but I guess it seems like bug fixes. V28 definitely found the sats much better than V27.

I had to revert back to V28 as the City/PC (postal code search for us in the UK) facility had gone, it only allowed you to search for a CITY.

Has aybody else experienced this...I'm running with a 2007-1 High DVD and have no problems if running with V28.

My V29 works with postal codes here in Sweden

A pity that this 2008 GPS software has still a worse handling and viewing than my 2003 Magnetti Marelli ...:saad:

burned and loaded with no problem :thumbup:

Postcodes work fine for me in uk. 2007-1 euro high and 4-1/91.

you went back to v28-need a recode then?

Not yet updated, but interesting observations
 

The MDF in the .rar file is 302,328,432 bytes.

Buring the MDF using UltraISO, value properties taken from Windows XP:
Reported data size: 262,203,354
Size on disc: 262,672,384 (cluster size)
Disk property: 262,994,768

Here is where things get interesting:

Using UltraISO, "Convert" MDF to ISO, result ISO size: 302,328,432 (same as MDF).

Using UltraISO, "Save As..." to ISO, result ISO size: 262,942,720. Using this ISO to burn the CD, here are the results:

Reported data size: 262,203,354 (same as above)
Size on disc: 262,672,384 (cluster size, same as above)
Disk property: 262,942,720 (SAME AS ISO FILE SIZE, BUT DIFFERENT THAN A DIRECT BURN FROM MDF)

Both discs report 376 files and 110 folders.

I presume the diffferences are due to overheads, checksums, and/or additional properties stored on the disc, and either disc will work.

Just thought I'd share my findings. I also built a disc with a different splash logo. We'll see if that works out okay.

J A M E S.

When you doa convert with ultraIso, it retains the original CD Mode (Mode2)
when you do a SaveAs, it changes to Mode1

Use ImgBurn andopen each image - the original is a Mode2 image, and should remain so (so that it works in a Mk3)

Mk3 hangs up with Mode1

Jochen

The V29.1 in this Post is a mode 2 cd, if you uses Alcohol 120%.

gr. Appy

Jochen,

Thanks for your response. This explains a lot. I made a v.28 custom splash ISO and sent it to a friend. He was not able to load it on his MK3. I presume that the ISO was recompiled in Mode 1.

I have been reading about the differences between Mode 1 and 2, and it appears that Mode 1 actually has more error correction. Why did BMW build the older nav units to use Mode 2?

I presume MK4 can read both Mode 1 and 2?

Thanks again.
J A M E S.

Mk4 can read Mode1 and Mode2

Mk3 has problems with Mode1 OS CD, hangs and goes into an endless loop

I think the 'Mode2 only' issue was a bug :-)

V29.1 loaded up and working. The CD did get stuck and with UCrewX5's advice yesterday, I drove the M3 around for about 20 min and voila, the CD got ejected. Who knows why? Probably will get the dealer to look at getting me a replacement MK4 under warranty....

Anyhow, I now have 4-1/91.

I think the only difference I see while using Nav MAP 2007-1 for North America with Nav OS V29.1 is that in the "Input Destination Screen",

Instead of Country only (i.e. UNITED STATES vs. CANADA), now you have an option to select Country/State/Province....

For example, instead of just choosing UNITED STATES or CANADA, you can choose different STATES in the U.S. (e.g. MICHIGAN or CALIFORNIA) to help narrow your search for cities and/or street addresses or PROVINCES in Canada.

I don't think you could do that with V28 (unless I missed that last time).

So, let's say you are looking for MAIN STREET in NEW JERSEY, you can narrow the search to look for MAIN STREET only in NEW JERSEY and not the whole U.S.A.

So I went back to V28 - then my Map DVD (backup) locked up...the Nav unit displayed what looked like a really old menu/front end, so I upgraded back to V29...I now get CITY/PC however, no TMC...it doesn't matter what nav disc I put in, TMC will not enable..

What is wrong here?

Help appreciated.

OK, so if you use ImgBurn to burn V29.1, does it burn the CD in Mode 1 or Mode 2?

Mode 2. I used ImgBurn to look at the properties of the CD I burned off the MDF/MDS, it is Mode 2. Only those that I modified or re-saved got converted to Mode 1.

J A M E S.

Yep, that was there on V28.

Have you been into the rds menus to switch TMC back on and specify classic fm. or auto. also you need to turn it back on in traffic information menu - RDS-TMC or something.

If you downgraded then you may have put your system into euro mode and it will need to go back to the dealer for a recode or you can use navcoder software in this forum, with the right interfaces. euro mode is apparent by badly calculated arrival times, and it says car type 7er, in the service menu.

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D052; Blazer/4.5) 16;320x320)

Was it there for V27?

Thanks Eaglesrest...

I did go into the RDS menu, and tried to assign CLASSIC FM to the TMC, and it just sat there and timed out, however, I didn't know I needed to do the RDS - TMC...I'll try again this weekend when I'm home... Thanks!


Tim.

So does the v.29 negate the need to press the AGREE button?

Yes, the legal mumbo jumbo screen will disappear in about 5-8 seconds on its own.

Thx. I'll try it.

According to BMW, that feature was introduced with v.27. It goes off after 8 seconds.

Huh. I have a 2006. Thought it should go off then and no...:dunno:

Don't know what to tell you. The TSB from BMW announcing v 27 says so explicitly.

Hi, I downloaded V29.1 yesterday and burned it to disk using nero. No problem burning disk. Loaded it into nav and it worked fine but i couldn't alter splash screen so i ended up going back to V28. Used navtweak to try to edit navboot file but couldn't find the splash screen .gif file so couldn't alter it. Anyone who has done this and has any info for me it would be greatly appreciated.

Taking mine in tomorrow. I'll try to get some info.

OK, I have tried this several times and cannot get it right. I followed shoimin's instructions to the T and when I insert the CD into the computer I get a message on the screen that says "Incorrect CD" Anyone have any thoughts?

Maybe you have V.26. :dunno: Works for me.

What kind of media are you using? You can't use a CD-RW. Use a high quality CD-R for best results.

I used a CD-R - it made by Maxell, and as far as I know it is good quality. Is there a particular brand that is best to use? I purposely avoided using the ones made for music.

First, thank you very much for the upgrade! It worked like a charm.

Second (and pardon my ignorance) - can you help me understand how I can change the language? Currently under "Settings", the only language I get are US English, French and Spanish. Some of the other members have mentioned that this new upgrade has other languages (specially UK English), and I was wondering if you can help me switch to that.

Thanks
J

The nav OS disc has 7 languages: GB, DE, FR, IT, ES, NL, US

Use NavCoder to change (Google:Navcoder)

Did you already make changes in navcoder to code NL?

I personally use Maxell CD-R's burnt at 1 x speed using Alcohol 120% & rarely have coasters.;)

I'm listening. Stay tuned.

i had to burn mine in 1x with IMGBURN. the first time i did it, it was at auto (whatever max speed it was set to) and my nav unit basically gave me a big middle finger.

i reburned it at 1x and it worked like a charm. i did notice the boot up being a bit quicker. going to try some roads in a few weeks to see how it might change the way things are.

I'm goin to DL 29.1 later today and get started making the changes with NavTweak. I successfully changed the Perspective mode horizon banner as well as the "Legal Screen" text when i upgraded to V28. So I'm good to go there. I'm on a US system so.... its uses US English.

I was wondering if there is a way to have the navigation voice with a British accent. This may be covered somewhere else. If so... poin me in the direction please :boogie:

Also... what are the specs for a splash screen picture? i want to put a pic of my car on there but don't know the requirements

You simply export the british module/rename/import it in the US voice module, then you have to change the CRC at the end with CRC24.exe and a hex editor..

400x234, 96dpi gif

Ewe... sounds like a little more than i'm good for. :-\

Thanks for the Reply though!!

I read your (KrisL) other post about the version you made up. Did you have the British Voices enable in that version? I assume that is the one that ddavtian was asking for an update on. If that is true... anything i should know before using it other than the normal how-to upgrade info?

I have the British voice replace the French voice.. but the POIs are in French when the british voice is selected unless you re-code your nav with NavCoder.

See my web page for all the info..
http://www.linquist.net/motorsports/bmw/nav

I'll probably update my startup pic/sky/text on the v29.1, but I don't know if I'll bother with the british voice thing. Maybe I'll make a second version in which British English just replaces US English.

Again... Thanks for all the info! I think i'll just upgrade with you 28.1 version (I'm on 28.0 now) then test out the British voices to see if its worth it to me. Then i can upgrade to V29 with whatever i decide (limiting my need for a downgrade)

Thanks Again!!

Now to find a way to get a pic from my camera to 400x234 at 96dpi :thumbup:

Google "Image Resizer" or go to http://forum.mihov.com & download. This programme is what I use to convert JPEG (or other formats) to the GIF files needed by the BMW OS. You can also alter the pixels of a high definition image down to the necessary 400x234 for the "Splash" screen...:thumbup:

Mike

Thanks for the usual help on this forum on all things nav.

I just replaced what I thought was a faulty Mk4 running v27 (it would reboot after about an hour and then lock up) with a "new" one that had v16 (I think) firmware. It turned out the fault was the "backup" map disk as the "new" unit just rebooted continuously until I ejected the disk...

It's the v16 one that's in the car just now. I upgraded successfully yesterday to 29.1 and it shows 4-1/91 in setup. Having inserted a genuine BMW 2007-1 Europe High DVD that just got delivered from eBay it works with TMC green etc., but I have no perspective mode - what's going on there? I use perspective almost exclusively and I want it back!

Also my previous unit (which I expect to be perfectly OK given the disk was faulty) never gave sensible arrival times nor had dynamic routing on v27 despite my specialist recoding everything to suit the kit fitted to the car (he said anyway). I read earlier it might be "Euro mode" due to it being downgraded at some point, which is possible as I played around with it a lot when v26 cracked to give perspective was the latest firmware. What's "Euro mode" and what do I need to get recoded to get rid of it?

Ultimately I will sell on the spare Mk4 unit as it seems neither is faulty, but before I do I want to leave myself with v29.1 firmware, perspective view, dynamic routing and sensible arrival time on the one I keep in the car. If I can get the other to do the same then so much the better for its resale value.

Thanks in advance for any advice,

Fen

The wheel just goes round & round & round & round..... All the answers to your problems (questions?) are here on the threads of this 1st Class forum. The best SatNav brains in the world have already given you the answers to your problems, if you had the patience to trawl through the relevant threads.

You want Perspective Mode back? Dead simple. Here are the instructions that I send out with any disks. Just make sure that you read, digest & follow them to the letter:

Installation Instructions:

To install the V29.1 OS:

1. Turn the ignition key to position 1 or start the car. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES TURN OFF THE IGNITION UNTIL THE UPGRADE HAS COMPLETED!
2. Eject the current map CD/DVD from the Nav Computer.
3. Insert the V29.1 upgrade CD into the Nav Computer.
4. Wait for the Upgrade Interface to load (can take over 30 seconds).
5. If prompted choose “OK” or “Yes” to upgrade the Nav System.
6. Upon completion (around 3 minutes) the upgrade CD will automatically eject & you will be prompted to select “OK”.
7. Insert the new Map DVD & set the current location & language to the UK.


To activate 3D Perspective:

Push the “MENU” button to get to the main menu.
1. Scroll to the “SET” or “SETTINGS” menu selection & push the knob to select it.
2. Push & hold the “MENU” button for about 10 seconds to enter the GPS Service Menu.
3. Scroll beyond the bottom to a 2nd page, where you can select the “Perspective” option.
4. Go back to the main GPS menu & select “GPS Navigation”, “Map Positioning”, then select “Perspective”.

To activate Speed Cameras:

1. Select “Information” then “Information On Location” then “Car”. Then select “Cameras”. Return to the Map. NB: If for any reason you eject the Map DVD you should re-activate the Camera Display!!
:confused:

Thanks. Suitably chastised and will use search.

OK, I finally got the V29.1 to work in my M-5 that has an MK4 in it. Very cool. Thanks for all of the support from those of you here that are smarter than I (probably most of you!).

Now my challenge is to get my Range Rover updated. It has an MK3 in it and shows SW version 3-1/32, which interestingly enough does not show up on any of the update charts that I have seen. It also has a male Brittish voice, so perhaps this was a "grey" unit from the UK?

In any event, anyone know how to get the MK3 to update? I have tried V22.1 and 29.1, and all I get is "Incorrect CD" on the screen. Could this be because it is a Rover (even though it has a BMW Nav unit)?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

22.1 is (and will always be) the latest update for the MK3. All of the new firmwares are for MKIV only.

I heard that, but I also heard that even 29.1 has the 22.1 update for the MK3 on it. In any event, any idea why I am having a problem with the 22.1 as well? Do you have a good source for the file, perhaps that is the problem? Is there a different one for Rovers? Thanks!

You Guys Rock!!!
 

Freakin Fantastic. I just upgraded my GPS to software version 29.1 from 20, what a huge difference. HUGE!!:flame:

The graphics are smoothed out and look somewhat 3D...

Your directions were perfect, took only 5 minutes. Prespective view is awesome.

Today on my way to work I hid the POI icons and now the option to put them back is greyed out*!$#^$%$ -

Does anyone know how to fix this? :banghead:
Also, what is Camera Display?

Thanks,

Doug

2004 X5 4.4 - Black w/ Nav and 2 slammin 12" woofers in addition to the factory subs....Pink Floyd sounds GREAT!!!

Correct. The 3-1/32 does not show up on any of the British (BMW) updates. There was a 3-1/31 (V17.1) and a 3-1/40 (V18) but your version appears to be unique - probably to Land Rover only. I stand to be corrected, but having been heavily involved with BMW Map DVD's & the CD based OS's since 2005 I have NEVER come across a 3-1/32 version!!! - But that is not to say that Land Rover did not have their own unique software - they do. You must go to a Land/Range Rover forum as I DO know that the Land/Range Rover SatNav OS software is completely different to BMWs (as is the Mini's & Rolls Royce...) - despite using the same MkIII CD & MkIV DVD players.

The reason is quite simple: The Land Rover SatNav OS has all sorts of different algorithms to a road car, aimed at the off-road capabilities, such as height above sea level, angle the vehicle is tilted at etc etc........ The V27/27.1/28/29.1 OS will not load properly because it is not designed for off-road use!.....;)

Just go in and search for another POI, you don't have to select it, just search for it.

The 'Hide POI Icons' option does just that, it does not re-enable the previously selected POI, which it could do you'd have thought.

So maybe we X3 and X5 drivers should do the other way around and burn a land-rover firmware into our MKIV systems :rofl: any interesting link to the rover forums with firmware updates? anyone willing to try? :D:D

Thanks Winkle. I have not found a site for the Land Rover updates yet, but when I do, I will let everyone here know in case there is interest.

I will try that on my way home from work. Thanks for the info RichardP1

Doug

Guys there is no point in looking for Range Rover firmware updates as they no longer exist and were stopped when BMW sold Landrover.

The last update for the RR Mk3 CD based unit was in September 2003 and that was just a few bug fixes to their equivalent V17. I have a copy of this somewhere on CD if someone wants to dig into it a bit..........The only useful feature would be to find a way to activate the off road feature but I not sure how handy that would be to 3 & 5 series owners though:rofl:

As for the rest of the software, it doesn't even have the split screen option so its so out of date it might as well be windows 95!

The Range Rover forums are quite usefull for some things but not for Navigation info or hacks........you need to swap out the nav for a Mk4 and come here for that;)

Andy.

zzz
 

i dont even know how can i download from the link i can't. is that only my problem??

v29.1 Help
 

Hope y'all can help out a NAV Noob so here goes.

I have a 2006 X3 with the factory NAV option. I want to enable "Perspective Mode," but my current version does not allow for that. It's sw v4-1/60 (Is that v26 or v27?)

I have the v28 upgrade for sometime now, but always been too chicken to install it because from what I've read I could lose some functionality with the upgrade...such as the "Assist" feature.

Will upgrading from my current version (v4-1/60) to v29.1 have the same risk? Thanks!

BTW, my Maps disc is 2007.1 :beerchug:

Hi there, i have a problem, i recently updated my mk4 with v29.1 and everything is working fine, yesterday a friend of mine asked me to upgrade his 530d from 2002 with v29.1, so i did!
The mk4 had the dutch menu and language, but after i upgraded his mk4, the language has changed to German, GB and French!
Is there anyway i can get this dutch language back (the menu an the spoken language)?

Regards

J.

A SW upgrade often resets the nav to factory default settings. DE, GB and FR is factory default.

You need my NavCoder program, then you can set the nav to whatever language combination you want, and restore the correct Telematics settings

Jochen

Thanx KiwiJochen,

Do i need any hardware device to program?, or can i just rewrite my copy of v29.1 with navcoder?
I will try this tommorow evening and gonna search for a faq to do it

thnx for the quick reply


regards

Moviefreak

NavCoder changes the programming inside the nav unit. It doesn't alter the OS. You need to change the programming 9coding) to restore the languages and settings you want.

You need a hardware interface - an ibus interface - which you must either buy or build

In the NavCoder zip file there is a schematic for a simple ibus interface, which is the one I use.

And you also need a laptop with a com port.

Jochen

Hallo KiwiJochen

Where do i have to change the ''9 coding'' i see only the 7 languages without NL with navcoder :confused:

gr.
Sam

I ordered a resler v5 usb, thnx for the reply guys

can i also program mk1,2 and 3 with navcoder?

regards

Joel

I've just added NL to NavCoder, sorry! Still with a friend in Germany for testing..

NavCoder does Mk2 and Mk3, never tested on a Mk1...

Thnx jochen, i hope it works out for the dutch voice!!

Excuse me for asking, but in the entire forum i didnt seem to find how to change te menu in another written language, or is this automaticly changed when navcoder change the voice language, when it does will the dash display also change to dutch?
I viewed the program (navcoder 2.0) and its nice (accept the nl language whas missing LOL)
Im gonna search for a tutorial now, so i can study a bit about the possibilities with the resler device!

Im gratefull for your responce and the support your bringing to this board
Sorry for the bad english spelling, i hope you understand everything i typed wrong

Friendly regards

Joel

NavCoder changes the language of the nav, and the nav tells the whole car what language to use. So everything changes.

I have tried DE, GB, IT, FR and US in my car - it works.
I have not tried NL!

Then NL will work also (LOL), now just making it available in Navcoder hehe!
Is Nl available in the previous versions of Navcoder?

When the resler device is arrived i will test Navcoder on an old mk1 and write about it here, maybe there can be a list somewhere to make a tut an compatibility list?

thnx again

Joel

Language code number 9 (female only) works perfect for Dutch (NL) navigation. :thumbup:
Both text and spoken messages work fine within V28!

Cheers,

Thnx for the confirmation John

I will test it as soon ive got the resler device in the mailbox!!

Wich version of navcoder you use? Because in the latest i downloaded seems to be no Dutch language option, but anyway Jochen says he gonne change that LOL

Thnx for the help

Grts

Joël

You can also use 'IBus analyser 1.0.011' or 'WinBus' until Jochen has implemented this in his NavCoder.
Again, nice job Jochen!! :cheer:

The command is ; 3F 09 3B 07 01 FF 89 81 80 00 plus the CheckSum.
Paste the bold section onto the command line...

89 Dutch (1st Language NL)
81 English (2nd Language GB)
80 German (3rd Language D)

The languages are;
x0- German - D
x1- English - GB
x2- American - US
x3- Italian - IT
x4- Spanish - ES
x5- Japanese - JP
x6- French - FR
x7- ???
x8- ???
x9- Dutch - NL (female only)

x=0 Male (not on all languages)
x=8 Female

Cheers,

Thnx John,

Seems dificult to me but gonne give it a try when navcoder isnt an option.
I wish my knowledge whas bigger and relative to strings

thnx again

Joël

Aux. vent disappeared in v 29.1 - any hints?
 

I ran the 29.1 O/S update on a 2003 BMW X5 with the MK IV, and everything worked perfectly, except for the item "Aux. Vent./heating" which completely disappeared from the MENU screen.

Any hints? :confused:

Disconnect the battery for 5 minutes, then connect it again and your Aux Vent/Heating will appear again.

Problems with Loading V29.1
 

Hello,
I am a newbie here. I burned a CD with both V29.mdf & V29.mds and followed the instructions on this forum to upgrade the OS. I have a 2006 X5 with Nav and I do not know which Nav it is (MKIV, MK3 etc.).

Anyways, the Nav systems says that it is "Incorrect CD/DVD" and asks me to insert the right one. I burned the CD using windows default program and also using Sonic, but both do not seem to work.

Am I doing something wrong. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

DL Link
 

down load link says temporarly unavailable

Thanks Appy,
I burned image using Alcohol 120% and it worked. I have v29.1 now.

Did mine last night, modded with new splash screen, sky and 3d pionters.

no problems with the upgrade, can't see any changes as yot.

If anyone wants the modded navboot, let me know.

I have a 2005 M3 and have just received the 2007.2 map update from Navteq.

If I install v.28 or v.29.1 will it mess up my Assist/Bluetooth in anyway?

It should have no impact on that :tsk:

Just installed to me 2004 X3 in Australia and works like a treat :)

Thx a lot, I'll try it soon.

++

Tom

To All,

Just wondering if its just my system as I'm in Australia but the Accept screen does not disapear after 8-10 seconds. Also just found out that my navigation disc is on CD not DVD is this normal??

Regards
Rod.

Hi,

The complete Australian map = only around 256MB, therefor no need to put it on a DVD. A CD is fine (remember, CDs hold up to 700MB)

The automatic disappearance of your accept screen is dependent on your current software version (read it from the Settings screen) and/or the country coding used for your nav.

Eg: With region code set to Europe, there is no accept screen.
With region code set to USA, accept screen appears.

My NavCoder software allows you to change regions as you wish

cool, I will have to wait for my resler iBus adapter then I'll try and change region to Europe.

Thanks again and happy easter to all.:popcorn:

Language Module
 

I just upgraded my NAV to 28, but with the British female voice and M Splashscreen.

Is there a way to upgrade to v29 and still keep the same voice, splashscreen et al.?

Does anyone know where I can just Buy the os software?
 

I am not that much of a technical guy can I just buy the software from someone? I would us paypal. I dont even need the newest version I would be happy with somthiong like 1-3/60 I currently have 1-3/31

Gif Extractor
 

which Gif Extractor software you guys are using? thanks.

NavTweak v2.6

Voice will most likely remain unchanged but splash screen will be updated with new SW update

So if you want to reatin your splash screen then you need to make a new customer v29 OS disc

That sounds good. I'm not sure what a "new customer v29 OS disc" is though. Is that something I have to make myself or obtain elsewhere?

He meant to say that you would need to make your own custom V29 for that.

Got it. I'll probably keep v28 for now and if and when a giant leap in features comes out (like street names in Perspective Mode), I'll go throught the brain damage of learning how to hack the splash screen.

thanks!

Yes Ebay is a good place to buy a cd already made with version 29.1 (latest) I recommend buying from the seller bimmermanual. He sells reliable cd's for around 20 bucks.

Adam

So I have a 2006 4.4. I could just buy the CD and drop it in the the DVD?

Yes, buy the CD for $20.

Or download the image, and burn onto a CD-R yourself. Will cost much less than $20 but if you've never burnt CD images, you may prefer to spend $20 and let someone else do the job. Only because a lot of people get confused when learning how to burn images

Jochen

Thx.

hiya - few quick questions..

1) how do i check the version of my x5's computer???
i have a 2002 x5 4.4 with nav/dsp

*** Edited: I figured out I have 3-1/40

Now what????

2) which version of upgrade will work for me? I would LOVE to rid myself of the stupid NAG screen

3) I believe i do NOT have a dvd in the back.. it seems like a CD.

tia
garz!

Ok, ordered it.

Here if anyone wants one.

What do you mean modded the: Sky and the Pointer???

Do you have any pics???

Does anyone know if this v29 will put the nav into euro mode???

As long as you are upgrading (V28 to V29 for example) it will not switch to Euro.

Sorry here goes, updated with the following, used navtweak to mod the navboot,

Splash
http://www.xoutpost.com/navigation-sy...tml#post245092

the one one the left

Sky
http://www.xoutpost.com/157760-post12.html


Pointers
http://www.xoutpost.com/196211-post93.html

I Don't know for sure, but I don't think so, I will retain the mode that you were in.

I just followed the instructions and it worked like a charm. The disclaimer screen now turns off by itself, and the NAV remains configured for the USA, even the saved addresses are intact. The perspective view seems more like a gimmick than a useful feature.

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5...vupdatefa9.jpg

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6266/navusayy5.jpg

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8950/navpptgz2.jpg

Thanks looks good!!!

I notice that with the newer 2007.1 DVD, more of these circular icons appear on the map. I have no idea what they actually represent...

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/240/nav20071zj2.jpg

They have been discussed before, they are described as 'City Centers', but City is not really the correct term. They are central points of Citys, Towns, Vilages, Regions etc.

RichardP1, thanks for the clarification.

I also notice that with the 2007.1 maps, when you arrive at your destination, the arrow inside the circle that represents your car isn't perfectly lined up with the checkered flag representing your destination. I wonder if this is a software bug or simply GPS inacurracy...

When I click on the megaupload link, I receive a message saying "file is temporarily unavailable", since yesterday. Can someone re-upload the file and provide and updated link?

Thanks in advance.

I just clicked on the link found in the first post in this thread and it's still there and active for downloading.

F'ed up upgrade
 

I'm a newbie and just picked up an e46 coupe with a DVD Nav system. I just tried to upgrade to V29.1 by downloading the .RAR file and burning the file. I burned the .mds with ImgBurn (the .mdf file would not burn) and tried to load it in my Nav DVD reader. The screen prompted a no-disc found message and eventually ejected the CD on its own (I tried loading it again with no success). I then copied the .mdf file and saved it as a .iso file type and burned it using Nero 7, someone said they tried that in another thread and seemed to work. I loaded it in my Nav DVD reader and the screen prompted a message that it was loading the CD, the screen went black and I waited about 15 minutes hoping that it was close to finishing. I waited another 5 minutes and ejected the CD myself because I thought maybe there was something wrong with the CD. Now my screen is still blank and I can only use my radio. Any advice?

First off, dont panic. The NAV system might seem as if it shot, but its designed to always boot from a NAV OS disk if one is present in the drive. Therefore, try burning the disk again.

I recomend you try Alcohol 120% (latest version, trial download available) ... and burn at the slowest speed.

http://trial.alcohol-soft.com/

Simply insert your newly burnt disk into the drive and the NAV computer should boot from it ok.

Failing all of this, try burning a fresh disk on a different computer if you have it. It could be your CD burner.

And the .mdf and .mds are the equivalent to the iso file. Don't burn the files themselves! The .mds is equivalent to a .iso file, but you'll need to make sure it's interpreted as a Mode2 iso file. The .mdf file is a text description of what goes inside the .mds.

So, again, use Alcohol 120, and load the .mdf file. The program will know what to do with both files.

I burned the file using Alcohol 120 (I selected the .mds file but both the .mds and .mdf files were displayed as being burned so I thought everything was cool). I then booted it in my DVD reader and after like 10 minutes, nothing happened. I went to the DVD reader and it didn't sound like the cd was reading (very low inconsistent rpm sound). I thought the problem could have been that I burned the file onto a low quality disc because that's what I had available at the time. I then tried to burn the file using a high quality dvd that I had and a message prompted from Alcohol 120 that the file (.mds) was a Mode 1 type while the DVD is supposed to be burned as a Mode 2 type. I'll go buy some high quality CDs today and try to burn it again and load it at 1x speed on ImgBurn, and if it doesn't work, I'll try it again with Alcohol 120 (the min burn speed on that is 4x). Wish me luck. Thanks.

ImgBurn @ 1x is the way to go, talked a mate through this yesterday.

Once you have downloaded the file, unzip it (using winzip or similar) into a sub-dir on your pc.

Then use imgburn or similar (http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download) to burn a new
(blank) cd with the new downloaded firmware image.

eg:
install imgburn.
then run.
open v29.mds (from sub-dir).
select "mode write" from menu.
press write (cd image at bottom).

Burn at 1x speed, on good quaility cd.

When its finished writing your new firmware cd,
Goto the car open the drivers door,
Goto the dvd nav computer wait for the red led on the drive to go out,
Then press eject on drive,
Eject the map disc,
Switch ign to pos 1, leave door open.
Insert firmware disc into drive, follow instruction on nav screen.
Wait (approx 6 mins) till sat nav asks to eject cd and reboot.
Eject cd,
Confirm reboot.

Thats it.

Do not swich off ignition or close the door when doing the upgrade.

Hope this helps.

John

Anyone have the activation code for alcohol 120%? My trial period expired and I don't really want to buy the program to burn 1 disc.

I use imgburn
 

I did the same thing last time, this time with a high quality cd and it worked fine. Thanks.

Thanks! I was able to download the file now. Looks like the site was temporarily down both times when I tried downloading during the weekend.

No noticeable difference but it works perfect. :)

Thank you. The maps look better, looking forward to having the Navteq 2007.2.

RENAME .mdf FILE EXTENSION TO .iso it IT WILL WORK WITH NERO , ALKOHOL , AND ANY ISO IMAGE RCORDERS

anybody know how to downgrade to V27 from V29.1 ? It says your software is up to date. Thanks

Hi there - new to board - quick question...

I downloaded the 4.3 gigabyte ISO of the 2007.2 Nav dvd - however when i goto burn it in Toast - it says it is a CD ROM XA iso and can't be burned onto DVD - does anyone know what that means? there is not alot of info online about CD ROM XA... ???

thanks

b

where did you get the 2007.2 nav dvd data?

bit torrents - mininova.org i think... i did a lot of searching

Thanks So Much!
 

You guys are awesome! I just updated my e39 from the awful beta software it came with to the latest 29. What a huge improvement! I love perspective view, and the colors are so much better.

So now I need a new DVD as my data is very out of date from 02. I've read that the 2007.2 is not the right disc for me, but if I am using a MKIV, I don't understand why that is. Can anyone explain?

So what DVD do I need for my '03 530? Can anyone suggest a source?

Thanks again! I am so pleased with the new fresh look of nav!

GR

2007.2 IS the right disk, but for the E39 you must get the 'High' version, not Professional or Business.

Hi, i'm new to the forum, i have 2002 E53 4.4, will i be able to upgrade to the v29.1 with no problem ??
Regards

No problems. Check if you have a Mk3 or Mk4 (observe your SW version in SET or SETTINGS - first digit indicates Mk3 or Mk4)

Mk3 newest SW version = 3/1-63
Mk4 newest SW version = 4/1-91

Then download the OS, burn a CD (make sure it is Mode2/Form1 for the Mk3) and insert into nav and follow on-screen instructions.

mine is SW 3-1/40.. what does it mean & what do u mean by mode2/form1 ??? thx

You have an older version (3-1/40 = Mk3, colour, v4.0).
The last version ever made for the Mk3 was v6.3 (3-1/63)
The upgrade is worth it.

Mode2/Form1 = CD format. See here for more details:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-ROM
but you don't need to know the techno-detail :-)

Download an OS image, (any nav OS v22 or later will do).
Note that Nav OS CDs contain versions for Mk1, Mk2, Mk3, Mk4, NAVI01 and NAVI02 nav units. Hence the OS CD release doesn't always match the nav SW release.

Once you have the CD image downloaded, use ImgBurn to burn the CD.
ImgBurn will treat the nav OS image correctly and make a Mode2/Form1 disc.

But verify the disc is Mode2/Form1 before you insert into the nav, otherwise you'll create a headache for yourself.

3-1/40 = MK[3], hardware v[1], software v2[4].[0].

Latest version is 3-1/63 = MK[3], hardware v[1], software v2[6].[3].

Same for MK4:
4-1/91 = MK[4], hardware v[1], software v2[9].[1]

Navigation Update
 

I am new to this forum and have just purchased a 4 years old 330Ci M Sport and it has a Navigation System installed, OS version 4-1/12. I see that the threads discuss version 27 / 28 and now 29. I have a very simple question, my appologies if this has been ask previously, that I hope someone help me with please - If I down load one of the updated OS versions, can I jump from V12 upto say V28 in one go? also what changes will I notice? The car came with 2003-2 DVD disc.

You can directly upgrade from v21.2 (4-1/12 = 21.2) to v29. The only issue which could happen (please someone confirm this) is when you upgrade from <v17, where the system will ask you for a "key cd". This CD is available for download somewhere in the forum.

I've sucessfully updated a friend's E46 from v24 (4-1/40) to v28 (4-1/80).

(PS: how does the version show for <v17 version? 4-1/??)

Thank you for the quick response, if I start the process and I am asked for the "key CD" will the system revert back to the current version, the id is 4-1/12

RJD, I went from v4-1/12 to 4-1/91 in one jump on a 2004 330i Touring using appy's advice earlier in this thread. I followed it to the letter and it worked perfectly. Rerouting seems a bit sharper and the screen looks a little better. Wish I could do a postcode search though - is there any way to get that (I'm using a 2004-1 Nav CD)? thanks

Hi,

first a Postcode search only works with the 2006/1 DVD High version or newer.

The MK4 never asks for a Key cd, only the MK3.

gr. Appy

Hi rojo & appy,

Many thanks for the advice, will update the OS over the next week or so and look on ebay for an newer DVD Navigation disk. I assume this will allow me to us the prespective view I aslo assume is far better. I did manage to download and burn a "Key CD", but after all will not need it. I have one further question which relates to the Sat Nav mointor.

I have noticed that on AM radio stations, there is a high level of background noise, however this disappears when the monitor is switched off. Is this a common problem, my previous car did not have Sat Nav, so did not have the problem.

hi all newbie here...
i have a 2003 330xi with the mk4 dvd in it.. also have the 2005-2 dvd.. software version is at 4 1-12...
do i need to just update the fireware witht he cd and then everythings hould work like the new pois and searches and perspectives?? or do i need to get a new version dvd also?? ive read alot but still cant find the answer any help would be great... thanks in advance

RJD - the new perspective view looks nice but you lose the names of roads, so I don't really use it. By the way, am I missing something or are there POI's you can activate or load onto the system, like a speed camera database or whatever? hypnotic1 - the software upgrade will give you perspective and (i think) faster re-routing. The postcode/zipcode search you get from the dvd itself. I'm using 2007-1 now and it's there.

That's what I do. I have loaded 400 extra POIs (my company locations) as a separate new category.

Works well.

Not sure about the POI's, have not got to that stage yet, will update the OS over the next week or so and will also update the Nav DVD, as mine is 2003-1 version.

KiwiJochen - dumb question - how do I load POIs then? thanks

rojo, try this
http://www.xoutpost.com/navigation-sy...db-update.html

You might need a newer map disc (I know the modded pois work on the 2006-1 as well).

Ok, so what did I do wrong?

Software loaded like a charm, but I still cannot find the option for the 3-D map. Is my DVD 2004.2 too old? MkIV 16:9. I forgot to write down what version I had, but it was old, I want to say 12 for some reason. Shows 29 now on the settings screen and a few things have changed, but I cannot find the 3-D view...

First post BTW, great resorce for this information. I couldnt find what I needed on e46fanatics.com. Plan on doing other Nav. mods in the near future...

Thanks!

You must enter the Service Menu, scroll down to second screen, and switch Perspective View on.

^ your talking about the settings menu (US), correct? Same menu where you can select split screen and set the time and date...

I looked there as well, but I'll look again...

Thanks!

EDIT: Nope, not there. It's showing SW 4-1/91 in the upper right hand corner, but no option for perspective view...

Unless I'm crazy and its somewhere else? Or is it that my DVD 2004.2 does not support that view?

EDIT II: Found the instructions to turn it on............I LOVE THIS SITE!