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pmessling 11-28-2007 10:29 AM

MK4 DVD sat nav comp
 
i have just installed the mk4 dvd unit into my car to upgrade from mk3, when i powered up the unit it asked for an appropraite software cd so inserted the V30. said it was loading then the screen went blank, and the power light on the dvd unit also turned off, however you could hear the unit searching and spinning disc, disc would also not eject. Please help me

Peter

TheM@x 11-28-2007 05:26 PM

Did you buy the unit new?

If not maybe it's in Monochrom mode.

pmessling 11-29-2007 08:24 AM

no from ebay which was described as working, there is no power light now but can still hear it spinning up etc, sreen is also blank. is the unit dead

Brian-bmw 11-29-2007 09:24 AM

It may still be trying to load the OS. you might try burning a new OS disk, put it in the drive, and leave it there for a few days.

pmessling 11-29-2007 09:28 AM

but what about the red power light, shouldn't that be lit whilst its loading etc.

TheM@x 11-29-2007 10:08 AM

Maybe it's the monochrom mode problem.
http://www.xoutpost.com/navigation-sy...ck-screen.html

Brian-bmw 11-29-2007 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmessling
but what about the red power light, shouldn't that be lit whilst its loading etc.

Normally, yes, the LED should be illuminated while it is loading OS or reading the map. However, I have seen a couple MKIV computers get confused and stuck in a state with the LED off. I think that we got it restarted by disconnecting the unit from power, reconnecting, and then it seemed to boot properly.

TheM@x raises a good point that the computer could be configured for monochrome mode. Check the post he references and see if your MKIV has the second identification sticker with the monochrome or color identifier. However, you said that you initially saw a screen that asked for a software CD. That would lead me to think that your computer is a color unit, since it should never have displayed anything, if it were in monochrome mode.

Your next best bet may be to get NavCoder and buy a computer-to-ibus interface, and try to configure the MKIV yourself. NavCoder is very good at helping determine and correcting a nav computer's configuration.

Galaxy 11-29-2007 02:14 PM

ok dont worry i have the solution for you! your systems fine and before you take it and your whole car apart- dont bother! i will save you 6 hours of worrying!
as you can tell i have had the same experience and tried everything i could think of before i finally worked i out. this was a few weeks back in sub zero temperatures at 2am, im sure the neighbours were on the verge of calling the police thinking what the hecks this guy doing in the boot of his car at this time!!!!

anyway what has happened is your drive has gone into continuous loop mode. these drives are very sensitive and once they dont like a disc, they will go into this mode of continuusly trying to load the 'bad' disc.
the solution is very simple but you have to be very patient(something i know is very hard to do when its freezing and you've been at it for 6hrs!)

the easiest way to do this is:
first make sure you are in a very quiet area, you need good hearing to do it this way. put the cd changer cover/flap thing down for easy access to the nav drive.
lock everything and wait at least 60secs- (to make sure all systems are shutdown)
go to the boot, unlock the car and very quickly open the boot and hold the eject button on the drive.
keeping this pressed and with your head as close to the drive as possible, listen for the disc spinning,
after approx 2-3mins(there is no exact time) you will hear the disc come to a stop, at this point release the eject button and than quickly press it again. your disc will pop out and the drive will come back to life.
Note: you will hear the disc sound like its come to a stop 4-5 times before it actually stops, dont release the eject button yet though. this is just when the disc slows down, you must wait to the actual point when it stops completely.
this is the only 'window' of opportunity for you to eject the disc, other wise if you do it too early or late, nothing will happen and the disc will continue 'looping'.

your probably wondering how i worked this out!- well there is some information out there on the net but no-one explains in detail, they just give approx times and it does not work like that, believe me i tried everything for 6hrs before i finally worked it out myself.

the way i personally done it was to remove the drive from the car and remove the outer cover so i could see the disc(there is a manual way to remove the disc like this but its very delicate and you could easily damage the unit. so with the cover off i plugged it back in and observed the actions of the disc, i noticed it only completely stopped at one point, between 2-3 mins after initial start-up. this was the million-dollar moment!

if you cant time it properly by putting your head by the unit, than you'll have to do it this way, by watching the disc physically stop and than releasing and pressing eject.

i know this is a long post but i can guarantee this works, i found out the hard way!

Good luck and let me know how you get on

Cheers

pmessling 11-29-2007 02:22 PM

will definately give this a go, once the disc is out however is there a way to reset the drive so that the power light does come on to give an indication that i can try installing the firmware again, or so that the install process can be restarted.

Galaxy 11-29-2007 02:34 PM

thats exactly what will happen once the disc is out mate!
everything goes back to normal automatically.
depending on how far you got updating, you might have no nav operating system though(just the basic menus will show)
than you just need to use a good disc to update.
if your sure your disc is ok, give it a clean and give it another go, but remember you'll have to do the same process again if it gets stuck again!

once you get the hang of listening for the disc to stop though, its quite easy. i tried the same disc 3-4 times again and it didn't work. so i got another version of the disc and that worked.

Cheers


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