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ccfj1 09-30-2009 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 664978)
Sorry, My TEL dialog is very unfinished - I forgot because I was working on PDC functions, and my TEL testers deserted me....
I've been working furiously on it

The goal is as follows:
1. Read ID determines TEL type
2. Then you Read ULF / Read TCU to read all the settings
3. Only then can you edit settings and Code ULF / Code TCU

I'm happy to test this as well if you need mate?

sna77 11-06-2009 06:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 664978)
Sorry, My TEL dialog is very unfinished - I forgot because I was working on PDC functions, and my TEL testers deserted me....
I've been working furiously on it

The goal is as follows:
1. Read ID determines TEL type
2. Then you Read ULF / Read TCU to read all the settings
3. Only then can you edit settings and Code ULF / Code TCU

Jochen,
I updated my NavCoder to the latest build today and attempted to code voice recognition of a friend's car. I followed the instructions as posted above, but gut an error as soon as I hit "Code."

Any ideas? I'll attach the log file to this post.

Thanks,
Steve

KiwiJochen 11-07-2009 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sna77 (Post 677713)
Jochen,
I updated my NavCoder to the latest build today and attempted to code voice recognition of a friend's car. I followed the instructions as posted above, but gut an error as soon as I hit "Code."

Any ideas? I'll attach the log file to this post.

Thanks,
Steve

It would make thinks simpler for me if you told me what error you get...

You have a 05/2003 E46 330xi Saloon M54 USA Left hand drive N
Fitted with a TCU type Everest part no 918 1864, HW64, SW09, CI07, made Dec 2007

The TCU is fresh from BMW, never coded

The TCU rejected the core coding with error 0xB2
Possibly because the VIN number was empty.

The TCU accepted the emergency number coding

I have seen this before and when I coded it, ensuring I entered the VIN, it worked.

Try with a VIN as well.

sna77 11-07-2009 10:36 AM

Great thanks! Last 7 of the VIN or entire VIN?

KiwiJochen 11-07-2009 11:44 AM

Last 7, standard for all control units

sna77 11-08-2009 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 677909)
Last 7, standard for all control units

OK, that worked... sweet. Coding took, power cycled the car and voila, success!

That was using the latest TCU (84109195455), in a 2003 330xi, USA model.

Derick2k 11-09-2009 01:25 AM

Jochen,

Can Navcoder be used to code the foglights to stay on when the highbeams are turned on?

KiwiJochen 11-09-2009 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derick2k (Post 678383)
Jochen,

Can Navcoder be used to code the foglights to stay on when the highbeams are turned on?

Is that allowed in the state of New York?

Anyway, I've never seen any coding to do that, which doesn't mean it cannot be done - it simply means I don't know.

damci 11-09-2009 03:51 AM

in NCS you can do that

Derick2k 11-09-2009 11:05 AM

I know a few people that have done it. I think they did some coding to the LCM. Reason I want to do it is because I have HID foglights, and whenever I use the flash to pass on the high beams it will turn off & on my foglights in rapid succession.

sna77 11-24-2009 11:51 PM

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Jochen,
I just programmed a friend's MKIV drive using NavCoder 2.7.25. He bought his unit off ebay, and it came in a non-English language.

I believe that i coded it correctly to USA mode, however the units are still showing up in yards, not feet. There is also a grayed out screen for "Traffic Information." Any ideas?

Thanks!
Steve

camel_x5 11-25-2009 05:21 AM

Does anyone know if there's a way to change the date format?
In Australia we user 12h format with dd/mm/yyyy, but that combination is not available.

Can this be programed with Navcoder?
A modified OS?

NBTBRV8 11-25-2009 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camel_x5 (Post 684094)
Does anyone know if there's a way to change the date format?
In Australia we user 12h format with dd/mm/yyyy, but that combination is not available.

Can this be programed with Navcoder?
A modified OS?

I asked that question both of my dealer and Jochen and it is not possible. As I run split screen I leave it on 12 hr as it blocks out the date anyway. It would be nice to change it though.

camel_x5 11-25-2009 05:49 AM

thanks for the quick reply NBTBRV8

ccfj1 11-25-2009 05:50 AM

Indeed, I would like that too, but as yet not available,

KiwiJochen 11-26-2009 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sna77 (Post 684044)
Jochen,
I just programmed a friend's MKIV drive using NavCoder 2.7.25. He bought his unit off ebay, and it came in a non-English language.

I believe that i coded it correctly to USA mode, however the units are still showing up in yards, not feet. There is also a grayed out screen for "Traffic Information." Any ideas?

Thanks!
Steve

I believe your nav has a modified custom OS loaded, because it only shows 2 languages

Please recode the nav for 3 languages, and make sure that they are 3 x different languages

Then also reload the OS at the same time, to make the nav standard

Then you'll be able to set US mode properly.

sna77 11-26-2009 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 684388)
I believe your nav has a modified custom OS loaded, because it only shows 2 languages

Please recode the nav for 3 languages, and make sure that they are 3 x different languages

Then also reload the OS at the same time, to make the nav standard

Then you'll be able to set US mode properly.

Thanks.. I have a legit BMW v.32 upgrade CD I bought from the dealer. I initially coded the Nav for US (male), US (female) and GB (female). That got the MKIV out of the non-English language, but seemed to put it in that custom language, so I recoded it to just US (female) and US (male). Do those count as the same language? If so, you're saying I simply can recode to US (female), French, Spanish, let it reload the languages off the upgrade CD, then that will overwrite the custom OS? I don't need to downgrade the OS first or anything, do I?

Thanks!

KiwiJochen 11-26-2009 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sna77 (Post 684405)
Thanks.. I have a legit BMW v.32 upgrade CD I bought from the dealer. I initially coded the Nav for US (male), US (female) and GB (female). That got the MKIV out of the non-English language, but seemed to put it in that custom language, so I recoded it to just US (female) and US (male). Do those count as the same language? If so, you're saying I simply can recode to US (female), French, Spanish, let it reload the languages off the upgrade CD, then that will overwrite the custom OS? I don't need to downgrade the OS first or anything, do I?

Not a good idea to code multiple instances of the same language, the nav was never designed to do that. It can confuse it. It cannot properly distinguish between US and US :-)

Also, the male voice for the nav stopped getting updated many versions ago, and is "officially" not supported.

I recommend fitting US, ES, and a third (non-US, non-ES) language of your choice.

If you have the standard OS, then the recoding of the languages will only cause loading of the required voice files; the entire OS will not be re-loaded (because it doesn't need to be)

sna77 11-26-2009 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 684434)
Not a good idea to code multiple instances of the same language, the nav was never designed to do that. It can confuse it. It cannot properly distinguish between US and US :-)

Also, the male voice for the nav stopped getting updated many versions ago, and is "officially" not supported.

I recommend fitting US, ES, and a third (non-US, non-ES) language of your choice.

If you have the standard OS, then the recoding of the languages will only cause loading of the required voice files; the entire OS will not be re-loaded (because it doesn't need to be)


Thanks Jochen, any issues having US and UK on there at the same time? Would be nice to toggle between the US and UK accents. =)

Also, if there is a custom OS loaded onto my MKIV and I want to set it back to stock, how would I go about doing a full overwrite of the system software? Simply install an older OS, then install from v.32 CD to overwrite it? If thats the case, do you know the part # for the v.29.1 or v.30 CD? I can't seem to find the part number (I prefer not to use burnt discs in my MKIVs).

Thanks!

ccfj1 11-26-2009 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sna77 (Post 684451)
Thanks Jochen, any issues having US and UK on there at the same time? Would be nice to toggle between the US and UK accents. =)

No problems, I have UK,USA and Ger on mine.

Quote:

Also, if there is a custom OS loaded onto my MKIV and I want to set it back to stock, how would I go about doing a full overwrite of the system software? Simply install an older OS, then install from v.32 CD to overwrite it? If thats the case, do you know the part # for the v.29.1 or v.30 CD? I can't seem to find the part number (I prefer not to use burnt discs in my MKIVs).
Just put an OEM OS cd in (v30, then back to v31/v32).

sna77 11-26-2009 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccfj1 (Post 684472)
No problems, I have UK,USA and Ger on mine.

Just put an OEM OS cd in (v30, then back to v31/v32).

Great thanks. Do you have the part number for the v.30 CD? I can't find it on realoem.com.

Thanks!

ccfj1 11-26-2009 01:43 PM

I may have a version somewhere mate...

sna77 11-26-2009 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccfj1 (Post 684475)
I may have a version somewhere mate...

cool, if you can dig up the part #, that'd be great, I certainly don't mind buying a $10 CD. I have a strict "no burnt CD" policy for my Nav drive. ;)

NBTBRV8 12-22-2009 05:08 AM

Jochen,

I just tried updating to the latest Navcoder and I get the following error:
MSCOMM: Cannot open COM1 port - Could not set Com state there maybe one or more invalid communications parameters

How do I fix this?

KiwiJochen 12-22-2009 05:22 AM

Well now that is interesting :-)

Never seen that problem before

MSCOMM cannot open the com port, are you sure you have com ports installed?

Please email me directly for further analysis

rockblock 01-01-2010 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamilFKH (Post 572345)
Use PA only to modify LSZ directly to EEPROM

I also have the 325i/01 (e46) but have NO NAV system nor CD Changer, so tapping into the iBus will be more complicated... all I want to do is turn off the DRL... I have a chinese PA Scanner 1.36 interface - will turning off the DRL work with the PA Interface? Thx

KiwiJochen 01-02-2010 04:38 AM

No, NavCoder does not (yet) work over the OBDII interface. An idea/work in progress...

rockblock 01-02-2010 12:36 PM

ok, thx...so how can I hook up to the iBus if I don't have a NAV or CD Changer? Thx

KiwiJochen 01-02-2010 05:09 PM

Over any device on the ibus - like the LSZ, which is behind the light switch 8remove light switch to access)

Or climate control.
Or radio
Or CD changer cable (fitted in most cars)

rockblock 01-03-2010 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 696688)
No, NavCoder does not (yet) work over the OBDII interface. An idea/work in progress...

Some folks get a bit nervous tapping into wires, so getting the software to work via OBD2 would be really awesome...cheers !

kenpappas 01-05-2010 05:02 PM

Does this work in the NAV for a 2006 X5
 
Wanted to know if this release works in the X5 2006 with NAV. If so how do I do the update? Newbee.
Ken

dirtdevilnc 01-05-2010 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenpappas (Post 697764)
Wanted to know if this release works in the X5 2006 with NAV. If so how do I do the update? Newbee.
Ken


NavCoder Website

kenpappas 01-05-2010 05:18 PM

navcoder Instructions
 
Not sure how this talks to the vehicle? Do I plug it into a com somewhere? Is there instructions for dummies like me ?

KiwiJochen 01-05-2010 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenpappas (Post 697771)
Not sure how this talks to the vehicle? Do I plug it into a com somewhere? Is there instructions for dummies like me ?

www.siegenthaler.co.nz/navcoder/

vince59it 01-05-2010 05:40 PM

Hallo, I decided to buy a Resler interface(40 €) for USB laptop use with my X3 MY2008...now it seems I need software as well and the NavCoder (20 €) appear to be the best option.
I am going to order the Resler and I already have the free NavCoder..what are the limitations of the freeware against the registered one?....
I know it is not fair..but is there any possibility to ":yikes:" fully open the locked version??:p: One last question: does NavCoder work with USB port? I launched the software and it seems there is nopossibility to set it for USB port...
Thank You

KiwiJochen 01-05-2010 05:42 PM

to fully open the free version you pay the author 20 Euros

If you are willing to pay the supplier of the Resler interface 40 Euros, rather than steal it from him, perhaps you should also purchase the NavCoder software, rather than try to steal it...

Regards, The NavCoder Author.

vince59it 01-05-2010 05:45 PM

:iagree:
Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 697788)
to fully open the free version you pay the author 20 Euros

If you are willing to pay the supplier of the Resler interface 40 Euros, rather than steal it from him, perhaps you should also purchase the NavCoder software, rather than try to steal it...

Regards, The NavCoder Author.

:iagree: Yes I fully agree...but it is always the "pirate" inside me..pushing...:confused:. But definitiely I will not pay 250 € for the HIGH 2010-1 to BMW...

Is NavCoder ableto operate with USB port?

KiwiJochen 01-05-2010 05:49 PM

Think of it his way: buy me 4 x beers @ 5 Euros each :-)

NavCoder works with any serial port recognised by Windows.

If you have a serial to USB adapter, or a native USB ibus interface, and Windows shows them as COM ports, it will work

vince59it 01-05-2010 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 697792)
Think of it his way: buy me 4 x beers @ 5 Euros each :-)

NavCoder works with any serial port recognised by Windows.

If you have a serial to USB adapter, or a native USB ibus interface, and Windows shows them as COM ports, it will work

Fine to me..:rofl:...so four beer and a bottle of italian red wine...;).

THX I will let you know.

Have a good night. :thumbup:

vince59it 01-06-2010 11:47 AM

Kiwi, is your NavCoder the only software to scanIBUS or it does exist anything else...? Just for knowledge..

zeronoo 01-18-2010 03:20 PM

kiwi, on the last navcoder version i've seen that on tel coding i have language change option only for tcu, maybe i am wrong but not only (some)universal bt modules have ses inside and tcu have not at all?

thank you

KiwiJochen 01-18-2010 04:29 PM

Early TCU has no SES, later TCU has SES in multi-languages

zeronoo 01-19-2010 03:05 PM

ok, got that :), how about universal bt, i know that module have ses also, maybe there is no possibility to change the language? is factory coded only?

big bob 03-11-2010 09:59 AM

Question!

Does the iBus need the LSZ master controller to be present for the iBus/navcoder to work? I have powered up a TCU from a bench supply and am trying to talk to it with navcoder, but ony get iBus timeouts.
The TCU is powered up, booted and drawing 0.4A.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...U/IMG_0081.jpg

KiwiJochen 03-11-2010 01:27 PM

You don't need an LSZ but you DO need a pull-up resistor on the bus. Anything from 1k to 100k would work.

Then if still not working, contact me privately via email for more tips :-)

big bob 03-12-2010 04:51 AM

Thanks, the pull up nailed the comms :D

This is as far as I get, hitting Read TCU gives me a new timeout (possibly as the IKE is not present), and I can't enable BT and SES.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...W/TCU/tcu2.jpg

KiwiJochen 03-12-2010 07:41 AM

See my email to you, which I will write tonight :-)

PS: to do all the special things you want to do (as in your email to me) you need to register NavCoder

big bob 03-12-2010 09:37 AM

You've got Paypal funds ;)

Damn this £/Euro exchange rate though :wow:

maxandfriend 03-28-2010 02:25 PM

Hello all,
I'm new here... or better... I'm a long time lurker of your awesome community and just registered a few days ago.
I'm from italy and wanted to give my little contribution by translating NavCoder in Italian as the italian language file which comes with the software looks kinda like an automated translation.
I already sent a PM to Kiwi asking for a way to share it, but I got no answer and I'm not even sure he got it at all (maybe, as a new user, I cannot send PMs'..?!?), so I thought I may post my question here.
If this is the wrong place, feel free to delete this post.

Regards

KiwiJochen 03-29-2010 02:25 AM

Its much easier to email the author then try and get in touch with him by PM

x52003 05-16-2010 09:19 AM

there is no any free registration:D


if its free it will be great:thumbup:

big bob 05-16-2010 10:13 AM

Navcoder is not free, it is just 20E. It represents a lot of hard work by the author, both in writing the code after work and supporting the users.

agobsh 05-22-2010 05:32 AM

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i have a navcoder problem it wont code this tcu 84116952218.

Bluetooth works fine but i want to change the name / items but it wont let me code why?

agobsh 05-22-2010 05:33 AM

i clicked read but it wont read anything i manualyy add the items but it wont let me code

agobsh 05-22-2010 05:35 AM

and i got these what are they

Summary of stored Fault Codes:

Module Qty Fault Codes
BMBT 2 0x0B1F 0x0308
TEL 3 0x693F 0x6D38 --
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agobsh 05-24-2010 04:09 AM

no update?

KiwiJochen 05-24-2010 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agobsh (Post 743708)
no update?

I suggest you contact the NavCoder author directly via email, with a log of the coding attempt. Then he can provide an answer to you.

ivo1bg 06-24-2010 11:21 AM

Is it possible to code the car with Enlish, American English and Deutsch languages in order to use 2 english languages for navigation, one with alerts and another without.

KiwiJochen 06-24-2010 11:35 AM

Yes, no problem at all.

ivo1bg 06-24-2010 11:50 AM

Thank You Kiwi, is that means that I'll be able to have two English languages on my board computer and when I choose Camera Alerts On/Off, there will be English in these two cases, on the monitor, BC and etc.?

KiwiJochen 06-24-2010 12:33 PM

The language that appears is depend on what language you modify for the camera

If you modify GB and US, then these are the languages you are selecting when changing "On" and "Off"

ivo1bg 06-24-2010 01:00 PM

Yes, that is the point Kiwi, I made lang string and two voice files (with and without alert) in Bulgarian and want to replace them in Eng and Amer. Eng places. After that, I hope to have Bulgarian menu and voice for camera On/Off, but BC will stay in english in these two cases, the third lang is not important ( it will may be the native for the car lang). Till now if I switched Camera alert Off, the board comp stayed in French. I just wondered is it possible to code the car with two English langs. Thanks once again.

ccfj1 06-24-2010 02:00 PM

Yes, I have Eng (UK-F) eng (USA-F) and Ger (GER-F), navcoder is the tool to use mate :)

ivo1bg 06-24-2010 02:07 PM

:thumbup: These will be my settings too John ;).

vince59it 07-05-2011 01:09 AM

is NAVCODER able to unlock DVD view during driving on an X1? I headr there are twopossible solutions software unlock and hardware cheat...anybody knows?

SuomiX 08-20-2011 06:50 AM

Can I use this?
 
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Hi!

Can I use this to connect the Navcoder to my X5? I think it is for the DSP, am I right? If not, where that connector should belong?

KiwiJochen 08-21-2011 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuomiX (Post 839822)
Can I use this to connect the Navcoder to my X5? I think it is for the DSP, am I right? If not, where that connector should belong?

Can you list the wire colourS? It is hard to see from your photos

But it looks like it is some audio connection wire, maybe for a phone option?

Roy in GA 08-21-2011 01:31 PM

That plug probably won't work. You need a ground wire, a 12v power wire and an I-bus wire. Most people find a 3 pin plug on the CD changer box in the trunk which has these wires. Ground is usually brown, I-bus is white/yellow/gray, and the power will be red/? usually. Yours is probably red/green or red/white.

SuomiX 08-22-2011 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 839941)
Can you list the wire colourS? It is hard to see from your photos

From left to right in the picture:
very light blueishgray or light grey, white, black, red and transparent clear.

There is a one free unplugged big blue connector under the cd-player, can that be used with the Navcoder? Is that the blue connector for DSP?
Or maybe I should use that the CD-player connector. It would be nice to have a one free connector for using the Navcoder when needed, rather than unplug the CD-player everytime.

SuomiX 09-24-2011 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SuomiX (Post 840068)
Or maybe I should use that the CD-player connector. It would be nice to have a one free connector for using the Navcoder when needed, rather than unplug the CD-player everytime.

So, this is what I made.

Thanks to ccfj1 and this thread: http://www.xoutpost.com/electronics/...interface.html
I found the right part numbers for those plugs.

Tymatk 01-19-2012 12:07 AM

Hi

Is there a guide for dummies like me of how to use this software? Here is what i've gathered from reading bit and pieces here....

This software will allow me to activate Incar motion for my TV
Able to turn on Blue Tooth function (don't i need the bluetooth module first?)
Able to programe/play around with lights, windows
Clear faults
Monitor sensors
What else?

What i've done:

Download the Software
Contacted the author, soon to pay the subscription fees
Get USB interface to use with new laptop (one that don't have RS232 ports), which one since my car has DSP?

Where next?

Where do i plug it into the Bimmer?

Thank you

big bob 01-19-2012 04:48 AM

Yes you cannot activate functions on hardware you don't have.

You cannot code the windows and lights or monitor many sensors I think, and the fault reading is not as complete as a program designed for diagnostics like INPA. If you want those things then install INPA.

You plug it in to the CD changer 3 pin connector. Do not plug it in upside down by mistake, this can lead to permanent damage to your new USB adaptor.

Tymatk 01-19-2012 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big bob (Post 861733)
Yes you cannot activate functions on hardware you don't have.

You cannot code the windows and lights or monitor many sensors I think, and the fault reading is not as complete as a program designed for diagnostics like INPA. If you want those things then install INPA.

You plug it in to the CD changer 3 pin connector. Do not plug it in upside down by mistake, this can lead to permanent damage to your new USB adaptor.

Thanks

Realistically, what's the chance for my car to have a Bluetooth module plug in already as my tv has phone button on it?

big bob 01-19-2012 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tymatk (Post 861743)
Realistically, what's the chance for my car to have a Bluetooth module plug in already as my tv has phone button on it?

None. Everyone got a phone button either on the Boardmonitor or the steering wheel, or both, doesn't mean you got a £600 option fitted.

If you have a TELEPHONE option in the Boadmonitor options then that's a different story. You have some phone hardware that might be upgradable to Bluetooth either via HW or SW.


http://www.bimmernav.com/images/nav016.jpg

Tymatk 01-19-2012 08:36 PM

I see, thank you.

Tymatk 01-29-2012 11:03 PM

Anyone has pic of the screen in Mono and in colour after the option is selected with Navcoder?
I got my Navcoder and still waiting for the cable to arrive.

big bob 01-30-2012 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tymatk (Post 863678)
Anyone has pic of the screen in Mono and in colour after the option is selected with Navcoder?
I got my Navcoder and still waiting for the cable to arrive.

Mono nav
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...v/DSC_4000.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...v/DSC_3994.jpg
Colour nav.
http://www.xoutpost.com/images/articles/59/DSC00924.JPG
http://blog.elceka.sk/wp-content/upl...95-300x225.jpg
You cannot use colour on a mono screen or mono on a colour screen.

Tymatk 01-30-2012 05:49 AM

Oh I see, mine is already colour! I thought it was some cool things.

Tymatk 02-26-2012 07:37 AM

What is this FAULT CODE?

BMBT On-board monitor control panel
Part number 6 916 609, version HW 45, SW 46, made by Alpine on 24/02 (June 2002)
Diagnostic index 31, Bus index 10, Coding index 00
CAN index 00, Modification index 00
Stored Fault Codes: 2 [0x031F 0x0113]

vince59 03-07-2012 12:09 PM

I have been told that NAVCODER can work with VAG KKL or D-CAN interfaces...I am not sure about that....any news from you?

mad_presley 11-03-2012 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vince59 (Post 869328)
I have been told that NAVCODER can work with VAG KKL or D-CAN interfaces...I am not sure about that....any news from you?

Yes it works, but only NavCoder v2.9.177.Beta
Tested with D-CAN interface.


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