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ashrafkh 04-07-2009 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KiwiJochen
Relay is a must, because the TV tuner uses a input that is connected to ground to activate the reverse cam.
So the relay performs the function of activating the RevCam input.

ya i noticed the same from other threads but the seller i bought the RCA cable from said that i need only to connect into PIN 17 on the blue connector to get the ground.. so since PIN 17 provides ground why would i need a relay unless its a power stablity issue :dunno:

KiwiJochen 04-07-2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ashrafkh
ya i noticed the same from other threads but the seller i bought the RCA cable from said that i need only to connect into PIN 17 on the blue connector to get the ground.. so since PIN 17 provides ground why would i need a relay unless its a power stablity issue

To activate ReverseCam, pin17 needs to be connected to ground.

You can connect it to ground using various methods such as a manual switch.

If you want the reverse camera to come on automatically when selecting reverse gear, you have to switch the pin to ground through some circuit in the car.

The simplest and most convenient circuit to use is the reverse lamps. However, these have 12V when on, ie: they do not switch to ground.

How to change a 12V-when-on to a ground-when-on switching signal?

You could use a circuit built with opto-couplers, transistors, FETs, even glowing valves if you want.

But the easiest, simplest method is a relay.

ashrafkh 04-07-2009 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KiwiJochen
To activate ReverseCam, pin17 needs to be connected to ground.

You can connect it to ground using various methods such as a manual switch.

If you want the reverse camera to come on automatically when selecting reverse gear, you have to switch the pin to ground through some circuit in the car.

The simplest and most convenient circuit to use is the reverse lamps. However, these have 12V when on, ie: they do not switch to ground.

How to change a 12V-when-on to a ground-when-on switching signal?

You could use a circuit built with opto-couplers, transistors, FETs, even glowing valves if you want.

But the easiest, simplest method is a relay.

MAN!!!!!!! you are great adviser :thumbup: do you have the diagram ?

ashrafkh 04-07-2009 04:38 PM

this thread says that i have to use 2 relays for aftermarket cams! do you agree?
http://www.xoutpost.com/x5-e53-forum/...era-issue.html

KiwiJochen 04-07-2009 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ashrafkh
this thread says that i have to use 2 relays for aftermarket cams! do you agree?
http://www.xoutpost.com/x5-e53-forum/...era-issue.html

You can power the camera permenently, or only when in reverse - up to you.

ashrafkh 04-08-2009 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KiwiJochen
You can power the camera permenently, or only when in reverse - up to you.

yes yes i know that, but am consulting you about the fact that using one relay will case noise so its recommemnded to use 2 relays :stickpoke

trapdoor 04-08-2009 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ashrafkh
yes yes i know that, but am consulting you about the fact that using one relay will case noise so its recommemnded to use 2 relays :stickpoke

The problem with 'supply noise' on the camera supply input COULD cause the issues that are described. It would very much depend on the camera module, how well it's made etc etc... the idea of the 2nd relay is that it will provide a clean switched +ve supply to the camera that doesn't also have the reversing light bulbs/LEDs on the same circuit.

It could be done with a single relay that has two sets of changeover/switching contacts so the coil is energised from the reversing light cct, one set of contacts is used to ground pin 17, the other set of contacts is used to switch 12v to the camera supply.

Personally, I'd go for a single relay with the two sets of contacts if you can source one.

Roy in GA 04-08-2009 11:54 PM

Most only use the single relay.

ashrafkh 04-20-2009 04:56 AM

Does this help
 
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hi,

i bout the following from EAS do you think that these what i need to integrae my aftermarket cam?
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ashrafkh 04-24-2009 10:36 AM

where are the experts
 
where did everybody go!! i need your help before i place this relay and distroy my X if notcompliant :dunno:


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