Those are the ones. I have no experience with Kenwood units. For some reason they just seem to be missing something that would even make them interesting to go take a look at. Here is one example from Pioneer that would be nice. It has built in bluetooth and some other nice features.

I also found a few nav/dvd aftermarkets but again those are not good for me since the dvd area is North America and dvds bought in Europe won't most likely work on the player. So I guess my only option is order one from overseas as well.

One good web store is Pixmania. They have a good selection of electronics with reasonable prices. I don't know if the ship overseas...