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Old 05-03-2006, 08:56 PM
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Life vs death penalty

OK, I swore I would never start a political thread again, I lied. Moussaoui jury came back with life in jail. Guliani and most everyone else was disappointed that the jury did not come back with the death penalty. WHY should we put him to death. That's what he wants. Easy way out. He then becomes a martyr. I say let him rot in jail for the rest of his life and not take the easy way out. I don't mind my tax dollars paying for his misery.
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Old 05-03-2006, 09:00 PM
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I don't mind my tax dollars paying for his misery.
I was waiting for WagnerX5 to post this. I do not like my tax dollars paying. . Edit: I stand corrected, let him rot and save us money.

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Old 05-03-2006, 10:22 PM
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I was waiting for WagnerX5 to post this. I do not like my tax dollars paying. . Edit: I stand corrected, let him rot and save us money.
As I'm guessing the little "Edit" here is for....

....what most people do not realize is that it costs far more to put someone to death than for them to spend life in prison. Court costs are much higher than is the cost of bread & water and a 8x8 jail cell.

You can be pretty certain that Moussaoui will not appeal his guilty verdict in this case, so as far as the courts go, this case is closed. But if he had been sentenced to death, most likely there would have been an appeals process. That means hearings in front of a judge, with court employees, state-provided legal team, etc. One day in court costs more than 10 years in prison. Now multiply that by however many appeals you are allowed, and you can see how it is so expensive.

Also, the appeals process takes time. If you ever watch the news, whenever they execute someone, it is usually for a crime that took place 20 years ago. That's beause with the backlog of cases in our courts, it takes that long to get through all the appeals. So you are still paying for 20 years in prison.

In this case especially, giving him the death penalty accomplishes nothing but "revenge". It will not scare future terrorists into submission.

I say it does not really matter one way or the other, and just let him rot in jail because that is the easier and less expensive thing to do. Our legal system is cluttered enough with nonsense. Just move on to the next case and be done with this one.
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IMO life is prison is 10 times worse than the death penalty. I for one would rather be dead than go to jail.
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Old 05-04-2006, 08:13 AM
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As I'm guessing the little "Edit" here is for....

....what most people do not realize is that it costs far more to put someone to death than for them to spend life in prison. Court costs are much higher than is the cost of bread & water and a 8x8 jail cell.

You can be pretty certain that Moussaoui will not appeal his guilty verdict in this case, so as far as the courts go, this case is closed. But if he had been sentenced to death, most likely there would have been an appeals process. That means hearings in front of a judge, with court employees, state-provided legal team, etc. One day in court costs more than 10 years in prison. Now multiply that by however many appeals you are allowed, and you can see how it is so expensive.

Also, the appeals process takes time. If you ever watch the news, whenever they execute someone, it is usually for a crime that took place 20 years ago. That's beause with the backlog of cases in our courts, it takes that long to get through all the appeals. So you are still paying for 20 years in prison.

In this case especially, giving him the death penalty accomplishes nothing but "revenge". It will not scare future terrorists into submission.

I say it does not really matter one way or the other, and just let him rot in jail because that is the easier and less expensive thing to do. Our legal system is cluttered enough with nonsense. Just move on to the next case and be done with this one.

Yah we need a death row express lane IMO.
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Yah we need a death row express lane IMO.
no limitation on how many people on death row can be executed in one year.
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Yah we need a death row express lane IMO.
Do you realize how many times new evidence has become available in a case that caused someone to be freed after 10 years on death row? It happens quite often.

That is the one problem with executing people. Even one mistake is too many. It cannot be reversed. If someone is in prison, they can be freed. An executed prisoner cannot be brought back to life.
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Do you realize how many times new evidence has become available in a case that caused someone to be freed after 10 years on death row? It happens quite often.

That is the one problem with executing people. Even one mistake is too many. It cannot be reversed. If someone is in prison, they can be freed. An executed prisoner cannot be brought back to life.
As Lumbergh would say in Office Space: "Ahh, I'm going to have to disagree with you there."

There are many, many open and shut cases where they clearly have convicted the right person.

There will never be new evidence for Joseph Smith http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/03/15/ta...ion/index.html. Smith is a human p.o.s. and the death penalty is appropriate. No, this is where the I show Liberals the door. Talk to me about not drilling in ANWAR, or wind farms, or saving hippos in the Congo, but child predators caught on videotape get the needle in the paw.

Carlie Brucia cannot be brought back to life either.
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Yah we need a death row express lane IMO.
I wonder what would have happened to this guy:

Exonerated Death Row Inmate to Get $2.25M

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. May 5, 2006 (AP)— A federal jury on Friday awarded $2.25 million to a Virginia man who claimed a police investigator fabricated a rape and murder confession that sent him to death row.
Earl Washington Jr., who came within nine days of being executed, had sued the estate of the state police investigator, Curtis Reese Wilmore, who died in 1994. Jurors awarded Washington damages upon finding that Wilmore deliberately fabricated evidence that led to his conviction and death sentence.

"I feel great and happy," a smiling Washington said after the verdict.
Washington spent nearly 18 years in prison. He was pardoned in 2000 by then-Gov. Jim Gilmore after sophisticated DNA testing, unavailable at the time of the crime, linked a convicted rapist to the murder.
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