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Old 05-04-2006, 12:18 PM
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Yah we need a death row express lane IMO.
Do you realize how many times new evidence has become available in a case that caused someone to be freed after 10 years on death row? It happens quite often.

That is the one problem with executing people. Even one mistake is too many. It cannot be reversed. If someone is in prison, they can be freed. An executed prisoner cannot be brought back to life.
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Old 05-04-2006, 12:43 PM
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Even one mistake is too many.
And the liberals come forth...
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F&%# that..Send Lindie England in there to put him a pair of diapers and handcuffs and piss on 'em....
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Old 05-05-2006, 01:08 AM
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Do you realize how many times new evidence has become available in a case that caused someone to be freed after 10 years on death row? It happens quite often.

That is the one problem with executing people. Even one mistake is too many. It cannot be reversed. If someone is in prison, they can be freed. An executed prisoner cannot be brought back to life.
As Lumbergh would say in Office Space: "Ahh, I'm going to have to disagree with you there."

There are many, many open and shut cases where they clearly have convicted the right person.

There will never be new evidence for Joseph Smith http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/03/15/ta...ion/index.html. Smith is a human p.o.s. and the death penalty is appropriate. No, this is where the I show Liberals the door. Talk to me about not drilling in ANWAR, or wind farms, or saving hippos in the Congo, but child predators caught on videotape get the needle in the paw.

Carlie Brucia cannot be brought back to life either.
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Old 05-05-2006, 01:51 AM
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There are many, many open and shut cases where they clearly have convicted the right person.
In order for a jury to impose the death sentence, they would have to think this is the case. If they are unsure, they would not impose the death penalty. In fact, if they are unsure, they are supposed to vote "not guilty" because there is "reasonable doubt".

Some of these "open & shut" cases have turned out to be mistakes. In some cases you have had police corruption where witnesses lied. In some cases you have just had mistaken identity -- someone looks very smiliar to someone else. It happens.

If you remember, a couple of years ago, the conservative Republican governor of Illinois pardoned over all 160 death row inmates in the state and had their sentences changed to life in prison after it was exposed that several past executions were mistakes. Even he realized that there was no way to be 100% sure.
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As I understand it the inevitable book that will be written as well as the countless interviews will not be allowed. And the confinement he will face?

He then will be placed in a 7-by-12-foot cell where he will be confined for 23 hours a day. Inside the cell is a concrete bed, stool and desk as well as a toilet and a shower. A small slatted window allows some natural light.

For one hour each day, he will have a “recreation” period but still will be in chains and isolated.

"These guys will never be out of their cells, much less in the yard or anywhere around here," Russ Martin, the project manager for the Florence prison, told an interviewer.

Each cell is monitored by video surveillance and considered to provide a very isolated existence for anyone sentenced there. One convicted gang leader told a judge after being sentenced there: “You are sentencing me to die a little each day.”

Other Supermax residents include:
· Richard Reid, the “Shoe Bomber," was convicted of trying to blow up a plane en route from Miami to Paris soon after the Sept. 11 attacks.
· Ted Kaczynski, the “Unabomber”
· Terry Nichols, the Oklahoma City bombing co-conspirator
· Eric Rudolph, who was convicted for bombing abortion clinics
· Ramzi Yousef, Al Qaeda terrorist convicted of planning the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center.

James Aiken, a former U.S. federal prison official and now a consultant, said during the Moussaoui trial that the convicted terrorist would "rot" at the Florence facility.

"They are in a security envelope, a security bubble. Their environment is sterile, they are isolated from the outside world and from the prison world," said Aiken, who gave evidence for the defense's case against the death penalty for the defendant.

"If a prisoner has a heart-attack, security protocol has to be followed before that lock may be opened and medical personnel can come in," Aiken explained.

"He doesn't know yet, but under such conditions," Aiken warned, "as time goes by they rot."
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what is going to piss me off is the inevitable book that will be written as well as the countless bulls*it interviews I will have to hear about. Now if you locked him in solitary confinement...I'd be happy.
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Old 05-05-2006, 07:37 AM
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Quite a few funny (Bozo) responses. But I have a good idea. Why not just kill him now. If we kill him now, he can start eternaty in Hell early. Even hell is worse that CO prison.

As for the Liberal cracks (I am a republican BTW), yes there have been cases of the wrong guy being convicted. There is also a case of the wrong guy being convicted and set free only to kill some lady reporter too. Having said all that, most of these wrong convictions are not recent ones (maybe it takes 10-20 years to fix them) and I am sure that "CSI: South Dakota" will prevent any new ones.

For those who do not support the death penalty, to each their own. As for me, just release him on a national police holiday in New York City. That way, we can call it a senseless murder (er justice) instead of a "death penalty"
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Article on MSN about the Admax:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12636492/
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"Anybody who thinks the death penalty was more punishment than this doesn't know what it's like to live completely alone for the rest of your life," Kleinman said. "If they really wanted to punish him, the death penalty might have made sense politically, but spending the rest of his life in the [Admax] is about the worst you could do to him."
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Old 05-05-2006, 08:40 AM
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The US has a couple Supermax prisons as does Australia. Those prisons are no joke, and if a person is a level I threat....life is horrible and they are probably wishing for death.
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