Easy there buddy your math skills are quite good but 80000 over 10 years vs 25000/year sorry takes 3 years now where were we. and as i just said had you cared enough to read at this rate we can wipe out their entire civilization and dont get me wrong i wouldnt mind seeing that happen an eye for an eye if you will but we arent going after their people we are going after those who want to kill us. so lets see if hitler would hide behind his people while still shooting at the rest of the world and the russians and the rest of the world would kill the germans they would cry "bastards they are pittyless" that would be fine????????????? i didnt say kill the people but they were warned and back to a point someone here mindlessly made about katrina yes they were warned too and in the aftermath were rioting and raiding stores taking tvs sorry bud G-d helps those who help themselves and i aint about to help someone running down the street with a 32" tv they just stole out of the corner store. after 9/11 crime in NYC went DOWN not UP, people helped not rioted. Read the news get your facts straight and for the love of g-d dont call me champ, bro

I know I don't always see eye-to-eye with most people on these sort of issues, but I'm pretty sure most people would say that the total killed matters much more than the frequency.

I'm pretty sure if a murderer was on trial for 2 murders, they would not punish him harsher if he killed both in the same day rather than 5 weeks apart.

If the current war with Lebenon lasts 10 years, then you can do the math. But until that time, the total number of dead is around 500, not 80,000. And even Israel's extremist war-mongering leaders know that an extended war with large numbers of civilian casualties is not going to accomplish their objective.

This is really ridiculous man! I would suggest you go back to your history book and learn more about what happened during WW1. Unlike for WW2, where the entry of the USA into the war clearly made the difference and drove the allies to victory, when the US entered the 'Great' War in 1917 not only it was very late but also the US Army was not prepared for coping with anything much more complex than domestic disturbances or border defense. The Germans had started backing off few years earlier after some important victories of the allies, mostly English and French at that time. When the USA entered the conflict it certainely helped shortening the war but the fate of the German army was, for its most part, already sealed. The idea of the Jews dealing with the English to get the USA into the conflict is a joke.

Hey guys...

Don't continue to feed the TROLL...

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In nearly 100 posts I still haven't seen the answer to a key question:

Is it really in the Quran that all non-Muslims should be wiped from the earth - in clear, literal terms? Or, is that simply an interpretation by an extreme-minded subset of Muslims?

Also, what do you hear in your mosques regarding this topic? Is the same message being preached world-wide or are there varying degrees of intolerance for infidels?

I would like to hear a Muslim's view on this question, if possible...

Thanks.

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I am not Muslim, but the answer to your question is No. Not in those terms. It is an interpretation (much like the right wing fanatical christians blowing up abortion clinics). Violence is against basic judeo-christian-muslim (as Islam is an extension of the other two religions). As usual, it takes a few crazies to spoil the pot.

Muslim - Christian - Jew -- sons of Abraham.

Father, forgive them, for they know NOT what they do.

- Bono, U2 concert, May 13, 2005, Chicago Arena.

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Everyone is entitled to their view. That is the basic tentant of Freedom. Right or wrong, good or bad, you are entitled to think whatever you want, and write or express it; however, when you try to impose your beliefs on others under the threat of violence, you have crossed the line.


The facts are the facts; the reality is the reality. The opinions and views are just that: opinions and views. They are worthless unless you do something about it.

The worst part of hipocrasy is to sit there and type "blah blah blah" 'woe were we'. Have you done something to fix it? Have you righted the wrong, asked for forgiveness, turned the other cheek, picked up the sword and fought, sought diplomatic answers/channels, make a change, effect a change, change your city/county/state/workplace/hospital?

Its funny how people use their keyboard as ego extensions and have never done/said/participated in anything to prove their point, solve their dilemmas, and fight their battles (present, or past).

Its funny how people leave their countries and settle in others, and bitch about how it was or how they had it bad, yet do nothing to organize and fix it.

Ever hear about the American Revolution? It was a quasi political uprising. The dregs of England in the New Colonies fought off their injustice in the name of economics and religious freedoms AGAINST all odds.

Why can't other people do the same?


Oh, it makes you wonder.......