Al-Qaeda asks for WWIII to start. (rant)

xxx · #1 07-30-2006, 02:53 PM

I started dating a Russian Jewish girl about eight months ago, I could never understand why the conflict in the middle east existed or much cared to, there was always more important things to do like wash my x ect.
But spending time with her and her family I figured I should educate my self on the subject somewhat so as not to be placed in a difficult situation in case the subject should arise in a conversation.
On the other hand when the Balkan wars were taking place a while back I was exposed to two different forms of information as far as what was taking place. CNN and the European news excluding England, also what my family and friends that were in the middle of all this had to say. I lost complete respect for the western media, its not that they didn't report it all it just the way they chose to report they manipulated the story they were reporting.
Back to the girl. My roots are in Montenegro and I was born in Serbia for those of you who don't know we are not fond of Hitler, Serbs fought the Germans for the entire duration of the second ww. and we always considered our selves the front line of Christianity. but on the other hand I couldn't except that Hitler just killed 6 million Jews because of his mother or because he was nuts so I conducted a little investigation.
I found a paper that states that in the first ww the axis powers brought the allies to their knees in a two year period and the Germans asked the allies to surrender namely the British and all would be the same like it was before the war started. The British were considering this option when the Jew approached the British war cabinet and suggested that they might have another option. The allies could still win if the Americans (at that time a nation rich and strong) entered the war on the allies behalf. The British asked how the Jews were to get the Americans involved they answered leave it up to us in return we want you to give us a state of Israel.
The Americans entered the war, The Germans lost, Hitler retaliated on the Jews, Israel was Born and here we are today. I couldn't believe what I read but it was all backed up with material.

Needless to say I still don't participate in the family conversations when it comes to this situation.

PS>>>Please don't replay to what I wrote her if your information comes from western media

B-Line · #2 07-30-2006, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by xxx

The British asked how the Jews were to get the Americans involved they answered leave it up to us in return we want you to give us a state of Israel.
The Americans entered the war, The Germans lost, Hitler retaliated on the Jews, Israel was Born and here we are today. I couldn't believe what I read but it was all backed up with material.

Unless I am misreading your quote (which I must be because it's the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.
The reasons the US entered the war was because of PEARL HARBOR.. We were attacked by Japan. Are you implying that the Jews fostered the attack on Pearl Harbor? --

Israel was not "born" and the jews did not "move in".. There have always been Jews in the land now called "Israel" for thousands of years. It was not a country before, it was a territory controlled by the Brits. The territory now known as Israel was sub divided into two "states" - The two states, Israel and Palestine. The Palestinins refused to accept a Jewish state and was thus not recognized by the UN. Essentially, they gave up the right to the land that would have been given to them.
The neighboring Arab states then attacked the country "recently named Israel" because they also did not want a Jewish state.
Israel occupied the West Bank and Gaza Strip in wars, were they defended themselves and it was territory that did not technically belong to the Palestinins as they refused the UN Accord that separated the region into two different areas.

Yes, it is true that Israel has crossed the line a few times and done some things in "DEFENSE" of it's borders and it's people. Some strikes have been preemptive, some have been retalitory. The attitude of the Holocaust Survivors and the Jewish response to the death of six million is simple... NEVER AGAIN... NEVER AGAIN will we not fight for our right to live, our right to a homeland, our right to not let our neighbors PUSH US into the sea. --

If you feel so bad for the Lebanese and Palestanians, do something.. Give them YOUR land. But if you or your brother or sister or mom or dad come near our land and try to push into the sea, we will retaliate with equal or greater force. If you don't like it, clean up your own terrorists..

We would love to live in harmony.. Just stop attacking us.

B

drex · #3 07-30-2006, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by B-Line

The attitude of the Holocaust Survivors and the Jewish response to the death of six million is simple... NEVER AGAIN... NEVER AGAIN will we not fight for our right to live, our right to a homeland, our right to not let our neighbors PUSH US into the sea. --

If you feel so bad for the Lebanese and Palestanians, do something.. Give them YOUR land. But if you or your brother or sister or mom or dad come near our land and try to push into the sea, we will retaliate with equal or greater force. If you don't like it, clean up your own terrorists..

We would love to live in harmony.. Just stop attacking us.

B

Amen.

That goes for Israel. And for US (the United States as well as the pronoun).

Bring your jihad over to the promised land (America or Israel), and that big stick we carry and (swing so ever softly) will be brought down upon you from the heavens and split your head in two so that your blood may flow so that there will be PEACE and DEMOCRACY. (that's from MY prophet).

Democratic Terrorism you say? Perhaps, but it is better than the alternative......

statdoc · #4 07-30-2006, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by drex

Bring your jihad over to the promised land (America or Israel),

They already have. Several times (In US: WTC x2, Pentagon, Somerset County PA, various AQ cells in the USA already caught. In Israel: essentially every damned day.)

I am still waiting for that proverbial stick to come down with more than a tap.

motordavid · #5 07-31-2006, 01:44 PM

Not tossing aerosol cans into the campfire,
but here's a 5+ min blurb from YouTube...

The woman speaker has Ballz and, some
pretty reasonable opins. Wonder if
she got out of the studio, alive.
BR,mD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wPglHZQf-0

B-Line · #6 07-31-2006, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by motordavid

Not tossing aerosol cans into the campfire,
but here's a 5+ min blurb from YouTube...

The woman speaker has Ballz and, some
pretty reasonable opins. Wonder if
she got out of the studio, alive.
BR,mD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wPglHZQf-0

She's awesome...

JV · #7 07-31-2006, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motordavid

Not tossing aerosol cans into the campfire,
but here's a 5+ min blurb from YouTube...

The woman speaker has Ballz and, some
pretty reasonable opins. Wonder if
she got out of the studio, alive.
BR,mD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wPglHZQf-0

Have to agree with almost all of what she's saying in this clip.

Now, if the American media would wise the f%*k up, and stop feeding us the raving lunatic avowed Hezbollah supporting Arab vs. the very articulate and calm Israeli IDF PR officer every night, we might get some discussion going instead of quick degeneration into accusation and heated argument. I wish they'd put more people like this woman in the clip in the "Arab" chair on CNN, CBS, MSNBC, etc. to show that not all arabs are Muslims, want to behead Americans, hate to wear Armani, etc.

JV

alpac · #8 08-01-2006, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by xxx

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I found a paper that states that in the first ww the axis powers brought the allies to their knees in a two year period and the Germans asked the allies to surrender namely the British and all would be the same like it was before the war started. The British were considering this option when the Jew approached the British war cabinet and suggested that they might have another option. The allies could still win if the Americans (at that time a nation rich and strong) entered the war on the allies behalf. The British asked how the Jews were to get the Americans involved they answered leave it up to us in return we want you to give us a state of Israel.
The Americans entered the war, The Germans lost, Hitler retaliated on the Jews, Israel was Born and here we are today. I couldn't believe what I read but it was all backed up with material....

This is really ridiculous man! I would suggest you go back to your history book and learn more about what happened during WW1. Unlike for WW2, where the entry of the USA into the war clearly made the difference and drove the allies to victory, when the US entered the 'Great' War in 1917 not only it was very late but also the US Army was not prepared for coping with anything much more complex than domestic disturbances or border defense. The Germans had started backing off few years earlier after some important victories of the allies, mostly English and French at that time. When the USA entered the conflict it certainely helped shortening the war but the fate of the German army was, for its most part, already sealed. The idea of the Jews dealing with the English to get the USA into the conflict is a joke.

B-Line · #9 08-02-2006, 12:50 AM

Hey guys...

Don't continue to feed the TROLL...

CGSTL · #10 08-02-2006, 01:17 AM

In nearly 100 posts I still haven't seen the answer to a key question:

Is it really in the Quran that all non-Muslims should be wiped from the earth - in clear, literal terms? Or, is that simply an interpretation by an extreme-minded subset of Muslims?

Also, what do you hear in your mosques regarding this topic? Is the same message being preached world-wide or are there varying degrees of intolerance for infidels?

I would like to hear a Muslim's view on this question, if possible...

Thanks.