Originally Posted by Quicksilver

Just a thought: I would give some serious thought about quoting someone elses opinion? First of all it's just that " an opinion" by an imperfect person. Secondly it dangerious since you don't have all the facts regarding his experience. (Remember opinions are like noses, everybody has one and they are all different). And thirdly it leaves out your own experience and education regarding the issues. My suggestion (and mind you it's just a suggestion) is to reduce the inflamitory rhetoric and at least use some of this intellectual energy to suggest a pragmatic approach regarding what to do to solve the issue. Doing that IMHO would at least set the example regarding peaceful relations.

Originally Posted by DINANM3

Hey guys like i said it is only an opinion of one person and i shared that with everyone here. I stated clearly its an opinion not fact and that i dont know shit about muslims. So take it as you want. Personally I think we should kill every terrorist on the planet and i also think that muslims should help us find them and get rid of them if they ever want to be respected and not thought of terrorists to the rest of the world. until they speakout against terrorists i will assume they dont care enough to stop it and that tells me they want it.

Originally Posted by BMW X5

i have a thing or 2 to say about that, the US is a melting pot which is what spurs half if not more of the issues. New Zealand or Sweden or Switzerland if you want to go neutral are plain they dont accept anyone who isnt one of them to be their own. Yet the US takes anyone and everyone and then goes and gives them rights.....

Originally Posted by alpac

I read all the posts on this thread and although I have my opinion I did not want to add my 2cents until now. I considere the all people who post on this X5 forum as friends and I learnt not to talk about politic and religion with friends as it can easily spoiled a friendship. The only thing I would say is that I fully agree with tijanaw when he says that this type of comments has nothing to do in a forum like ours.

Originally Posted by Eric5273

Exactly...this is indeed a land dispute, not a dispute of religions.

What annoys the hell out of me is I keep hearing all the news media say something to the effect that "trading land for peace has not worked well in the past".

That is absurd! Land for peace is the only thing that has actually resulted in peace. It was just stupid for the Israelis to think that if they gave land back to one neighbor, that it would make the other neighbors happy as well.

Twice Israel has made the "land for peace" trade.

1) In 1979, they gave land back to Egypt and Egypt agreed to recognize Israel and the two have had normal relations since and there has been no violence between those 2 countries since then.

2) In 1993 they gave land back to Jordan and Jordan agreed to recognize Israel. And again, those 2 countries have had normal relations since with no violence between them.

I don't hear them saying that Egypt and Jordan are supplying Hezbollah or Hamas with weapons. In fact, Egypt and Jordan are the only 2 Arab countries that Israel has not complained about in the past 10 years. So "land for peace" does indeed work. They just need to negotiate similar deals with Lebanon, Syria, and of course the Palestineans. Then there will be peace.

Originally Posted by DINANM3

I just wanna add that my cousin married a Jordanian guy. He is actually Christiona though and that is hy he came here since muslims treeat him like shit and say he is a traiter to his country. Muslims link religion to govt. and that is the problem. You cant be from the middle east and not muslim according to them or your a traiter and should be killed. Also the way they look at it is that it is Muslims agaist the rest of the world for the only reason that the rest of the world isnt muslim. You dont have to do something bad to them for them to hate you. they just hate you because you are not muslim. To them there mission is either to convert you to be muslim or kill you.
this is what ive learned from my new cousin. He actually hates muslims all muslims. He has read the Coran. "I think i spelled that wrong but who cares. from cover to cover" froom cover to cover. And he said they are fucking crazy and the only way to beat them and creat peace is to kill them. they are the root to every problem we currently have. There religion tells them life is worthless and your real life is after you die and if your a good muslim you will get something like 50 virgins and little boys when you die and swim in rivers of honey and shit like that. And they have like 100 wives whom they treat like garbage. My cousin also said the prophet mohammad was a petiphile. He used to have sex with little boys. He told me alo more. But i was shock when i heard this shit. Mind you My cousin is a doctor and extremely well educated. I believe hime. He was born in the middle east and lived there until he was 25 years old. So he knows alot more about it than you and I so i really believe what he has to say. Just to let you know im just telling everyone whay my middleastern cousin told me these are not my opinions so dont get pist at me for this thread. I just wanted to give everyone an opinion of someone who is actually from that part of the world who is not muslim.

Originally Posted by Eric5273

I think the point is that the United States has been involved in more wars in the past 50 years than, by far, than any other country in the world. And in all of those wars, the United States invaded other countries.