Israeli friend you are referring to me? Yes I am Jewish and yes very well aware its the Christian ideology that treated us worse but we are talking about a people that want to annihilate us (Jews) for the sheer idea of doing it sort of like hitler did but they have a slightly different approach, the only difference between then and now is that now we can defend our selves and its not pleasant to be searched while going into an outdoor mall or escorted by an armed guard to go to the restroom in a country with people that want nothing more than to just be left alone.

absolutely but they had warning they were told to get the f*$k out they were and are still being asked to leave, if they dont want to get killed then why not give up the magic carpet gang? because they will kill them so in this case its a matter of who kills them first, and they are letting the magic carpets use their homes so you know what if you sympathize with them then in my book you are no better than them. yes Israel has killed but they do precision bombings from military aircrafts FOR A REASON they arent shooting the dam bombs into air and hoping it hits something and kills a lot of people

Man, that is completely illogical.
"calling any Christian Racist b/c the KKK would use cross and as their emblem to commit hate crime."

Difference is huge amounts of Christians openly speak out about against the KKK and rally to stop any actions they take...where as I have yet to see a HUGE Muslim protest against killing civilians...oh wait there was ONE in Jordan, that's it.

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the other difference is the radicals from each side have different agendas, one being to kill as many Jews as possible the others being to inflict harm and remove the ones wanting to kill them

Small population? Um, take a look in Iraq/Lebanon and see how many Muslim radicals are running around blowing thing...more to the point..civilians up...oh and check out Chechnya too.

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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I don't expect to speak for Wagner but i believe his point is there seems to be some inconsistancies in what people hear from our Muslim brothers. Why do we have that view? Below are some examples. Please understand it is not my intention to throw anyone under the bus. Right or wrong there is confusion and it appears that only a specific group of people are getting the attention.

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/inte...411903,00.html
http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.a...9801&CATE=3000
http://www.sweetness-light.com/archi...l-the-infidels

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There are elements of the Arab population, and elements of the Muslim population that want to see the absolute extermination of the Jewish people - I agree. There are elements here though, who seem to villify all Muslims - isn't that also a dangerous mindset?

I think, however, that most Arabs don't have a problem with Jews. Historically, Jews and Muslims have coexisted, and the Quran explicitly protects Jews (and Christians) as people of the Book.

What they do have a problem with is the state of Israel and its formation. I think, at the very least, you'd have to admit that the colonial powers did a pretty crappy job of handling the affair. During WWII, the British promised both Arabs and Jews the same piece of land for support in the war effort (see the McMahon-Hussein letters and the Balfour Declarations); afterwards, a lot of chaos ensued, and I think that's were the problems began.

Contrary to what many think, the Middle East hasn't been at war forever. The current conflict is a 50 year old property dispute, the way I see it.

How many radical Islamicists are there? What number do you want to use?

Running with the two examples you offered, the entire population of Lebanon and Chechnya combined is about 5 million people. Let's assume the extreme - every single person in both regions is a terrorist. There are 1.3 billion Muslims worldwide. It's still a small segment of the population.

But that's not going to convince you, I don't think. Why don't you pick a number, and we can figure out what percentage of 1.3 billion it is?

Zero, you keep trying to justify it by percentage which when it comes to killing civilians via terrorist tactics by a 'group' of individuals is insane IMO.

My question is where are the other millions up in arms about what the others are doing? Nowhere to be found.
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