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View Poll Results: Would you be in favor of ethnic profiling in airports in response to current threats?
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Old 08-14-2006, 09:46 PM
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I think we should require all Muslims to wear red armbands. That way it will be easier to profile them. You never know when you'll find an Islamic extremist who does not fit the typical profile, like John Walker Lindh.

(I'm pretty sure this idea has been tried before, but cannot remember when or where...)
They don't need armbands. They draw enough attention in an airport because of what others in their religion have done. I would like to see how your atitude would change if you were on an aircraft that was hijacked. Can't you even imagine the terror you would feel? In todays world pacifists aren't realists!
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Racial profiling will still include people who have nothing to do with terrorism. May include false positives. The terrorists can change name and even looks. Terrorist can use racial profiling to their advantage. Not all have brown or dark colored skins. Some have very light colored skin and with little cosmetic surgery they can beat the system. And if the terrorists know that TSA is racial profiling they will find some other way. Easier said than done. Only an experienced person can tell and I believe TSA is employing some experts to screen, if not we are wasting time and money.
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Old 08-14-2006, 10:04 PM
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Racial profiling will still include people who have nothing to do with terrorism. May include false positives. The terrorists can change name and even looks. Terrorist can use racial profiling to their advantage. Not all have brown or dark colored skins. Some have very light colored skin and with little cosmetic surgery they can beat the system. And if the terrorists know that TSA is racial profiling they will find some other way. Easier said than done. Only an experienced person can tell and I believe TSA is employing some experts to screen, if not we are wasting time and money.
I agree with you bro, but by and large, you gotta play the odds if you want to win.
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The only way we should profile is if we can be a lot more specific. Targeting all arabs between the ages of this and that etc., does not make sense IMO. That would be like targeing all blacks between 15 and 35 for drugs, or all bald or buzzed whites as skinheads. We should also target all white teens who wear black as potential threats to killing students in their high schools. Profiling doesn't help solve anything, we learned that from history, ask the Japaneese we put in camps during the war.

If we had a more accurate way to target rather than age, race, gender then maybe I could go for it.

By the way, who was the guy responsible for the bombing in Oaklahoma City?
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Old 08-14-2006, 10:41 PM
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The only way we should profile is if we can be a lot more specific. Targeting all arabs between the ages of this and that etc., does not make sense IMO. That would be like targeing all blacks between 15 and 35 for drugs, or all bald or buzzed whites as skinheads. We should also target all white teens who wear black as potential threats to killing students in their high schools. Profiling doesn't help solve anything, we learned that from history, ask the Japaneese we put in camps during the war.

If we had a more accurate way to target rather than age, race, gender then maybe I could go for it.

By the way, who was the guy responsible for the bombing in Oaklahoma City?
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I thought they did what you describe already; like targeing all blacks between 15 and 35 for drugs, or all bald or buzzed whites as skinheads. also targeting all white teens who wear black as potential threats to killing students in their high schools. Nothing new in that list. It's called stereotyping correct??? Is that specific enough for ya??? Having said that don't get yourself in a tizzy. I'm just pullin your chain.

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The only way we should profile is if we can be a lot more specific. Targeting all arabs between the ages of this and that etc., does not make sense IMO. That would be like targeing all blacks between 15 and 35 for drugs, or all bald or buzzed whites as skinheads. We should also target all white teens who wear black as potential threats to killing students in their high schools. Profiling doesn't help solve anything, we learned that from history, ask the Japaneese we put in camps during the war.

If we had a more accurate way to target rather than age, race, gender then maybe I could go for it.

By the way, who was the guy responsible for the bombing in Oaklahoma City?
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Old 08-14-2006, 10:51 PM
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The only way we should profile is if we can be a lot more specific. Targeting all arabs between the ages of this and that etc., does not make sense IMO. That would be like targeing all blacks between 15 and 35 for drugs, or all bald or buzzed whites as skinheads. We should also target all white teens who wear black as potential threats to killing students in their high schools. Profiling doesn't help solve anything, we learned that from history, ask the Japaneese we put in camps during the war.

If we had a more accurate way to target rather than age, race, gender then maybe I could go for it.

By the way, who was the guy responsible for the bombing in Oaklahoma City?
Don't assume he acted alone or only with Nichols. If you only knew who he had ties with.
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Yep that's the problem & point, stereotyping hasn't solved anything - just makes things worse. Making more people more angry caused more problems. Obviously, you could take the "kill them all and let God sort them out" mentality, but any reasonable and rational person understands the morality issue with that.

Stoping and searching people for no reason other than race etc. is a violation of civil rights, but we could throw those out the window too. Acting on stereotypes is just plain stupid. But as we've proven over and over again, there are still tons of prejudice and racist people in society.
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Don't assume he acted alone or only with Nichols. If you only knew who he had ties with.
I always wonder why they covered that up. Any novice that looks at the evidence from that day would conclude that the government's story is full of kaka.
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Acting on stereotypes is just plain stupid
You ought to eat your words, because every terrorist plot that has been foiled since 9/11 has been foiled because of stereotyping.

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But as we've proven over and over again, there are still tons of prejudice and racist people in society
There are, but you need to take that out of the equation with regards to terrorism.
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