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08-14-2006, 07:45 PM
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bmw screws up yet again...
--------------------------- Posted by Rowley for DLS: You heard it from me first in the M Lounge… BMW quits sports cars Lack of relevance to automakers’s product range cited AutoWeek | Published 08/07/06, 3:11 pm et BMW will pull out of U.S. sports car racing after an almost unbroken run of participation dating back to 1995. BMW North America says it will end its 12-year relationship with Tom Milner’s Prototype Technology Group team at the close of the American Le Mans Series season. It is the end of a successful partnership that has yielded 54 wins from 114 race starts from 1995 to 2001 and from 2003 to 2006 in almost every U.S. sports car series. A BMW North America spokesman says the company canned PTG’s long-running program because it no longer has any relevance to BMW’s product range. PTG races an E46-shape BMW M3, a car that is disappearing from dealerships. A new M3 likely won’t appear in the United States until 2008, and BMW does not want to race a car it does not sell. BMW has not ruled out returning to sports cars in 2008, and Milner says PTG will continue next season, perhaps running its GT-2 class M3s in the ALMS on a privateer basis. -------------------- btw: i blame bangle for this... say good bye to the sports car feeling you love and made you chose bmw over mercedes.. bmw will drive like mercedes going forward because of this... no wonder they dropped "the ultimate driving machine" to become of "company of retarded ideas" Last edited by hayaku; 08-14-2006 at 07:55 PM. 
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08-14-2006, 07:57 PM
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I think you may be overreacting a bit, Adam. Heck, did BMW not just buy an F1 team?? They're only pulling out of racing here in the U.S. They are still very heavily involved in all types of races in Europe.
BMW racing -- and the sportscar feeling of all BMWs -- is safe.  Juan
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08-14-2006, 08:08 PM
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f1 is mainly engine and aero development lately.. neither of which you will see in a street car... f1 engines are good for only 40 hrs or less before they get torn down and rebuilt... also.. i don't think they bought sauber.. i think its a joint venture where they will supply money and parts... unlike ferrari/honda who own their teams...
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08-14-2006, 08:12 PM
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How did they screw up? It makes perfect sense not to race a car they no-more produce. It mentions that they will return in 2008... no big.
You blame Bangle for this? Oh so stylized cars can't go fast? Is that what your saying..? Get off the dope buddy. A bangle designed car can go just as fast as a non-bangle designed car. Bangle or not, BMW still produces great driving cars, so I find your comment completely unfounded. BMW has not tanked the way MB has, and continues to stride. In-fact thanks to Bangle, BMW has GROWN in ways it never could before... Bangle even designed the first sketches of the E53, and was instrumental in the E46 - both designs I'm sure your conservative side would appeal too. This bangle bashing is useless and needs to stop. He's been with BMW for over a decade, and his influence has promoted both the very conservative designs to new flame surfaced designs. And if your going to complain, Adrian von Hyodonk is your guy since he's penned most of the controversial flame design cars... There is also a board at BMW, which voted to take this revolution... Bangle doesn't run BMW singlehandedly, so if your going to blame, spread the blame across the board or the entire company - not a single individual... Do your homework too (I seem to be saying this a lot on the forum lately). BMW IS NOT/HAS NOT and WILL NOT drop the Ultimate Driving Machine (I read about this on Autoblog, and they don't know what they're talking about). BMW is not dropping the tagline. The Ultimate Driving Machine tagline is always used, and when Culture of ideas is used, it is pushed to the forefront (with the UDM still visible in the back) - (autoblog noted their mistake and you can clearly see what I'm talking about in one of their posts...)
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08-14-2006, 08:14 PM
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Juan
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08-14-2006, 08:16 PM
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08-14-2006, 08:18 PM
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08-14-2006, 08:21 PM
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08-14-2006, 08:27 PM
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Tech they develop in F1 is farther out in the future than GT racing. As Adam pointed out, most of the F1 racing leads to development of engine technology, often the control systems. GT has a far more tangible link to what we drive on the road because they are based on the same vehicles; this is especially true for suspension + chassis systems- if your 3er drives the way it does, it's because of experience from GT racing.
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