thank you, thats the point i'm trying to make we are so dependant on those dam cell phones and crackberries and i'm as guilty the the next but why corrupt little kids?

Noone knows where someone is at ALL times, thats the point, my parents may have thought they knew where I was but I wasn't always at that place, plans change etc thats why cell phones are important to many people, including my family, I think keeping constant communication with your child makes you a GOOD parent

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The first part in principal is true only to the extent that if my 8 year old is at school then he/she/ is expected to be there and i make sure that they are accounted for every minute so a cell phone is not required. That arrangement carries over into every aspect of that 8 year olds life.

As to the second part, my 8 year olds who are grown now will tell you that you only got to pull that not being where your suppose to be once or twice and that would be the last time you did it. I DON"T PLAY regarding that issue.

Now to the last part i agree. That's exactly why an 8 year old will always be supervised by a parent who is in constant communication with ME the parent. So again that 8 year old would not need to have a cell phone.

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the most ridiculous thing i've heard from you yet. Of course no one knows when you go to the restroom or when you are in between classes and exactly where in the hallway you are and your latitude and longitude coordinates but i'm sorry if a parent doesnt know that a child is at school theres a problem with the child and the parent ESPECIALLY AT 8 YEARS OLD. This is where parenting comes in to make sure the kids hang out with the right kids and the parents must know who the parents of their kids friends are etc.... all goes into good parenting, i'm no genious hell i'm only 24 with no kids but i've been raised pretty darn well to know right from wrong which is more than i can say for kids now and that all goes back to the fact that they are all spoiled by the cellphones and by the total freedom they have of wearing anything or nothing

First off I'm sure i'll get flamed for saying I don't think your ideals would make you a very good parent then, noone knows where their kids are at all times and I think the fact my parents took additional measures beyond just trusting parents makes them better parents

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Thats the point they used a cell phone to be in communication

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Not 8 year olds. No cell phones period. Supervising parents make the calls.

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yeah well unfortunatly not all parents give a crap hence the reason behind giving kids cell phones

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Now we are in complete agreement

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