So far so good...there was not a mark on it, if not for the label I would have though it to be brand new, also not in every case is it a customer gets home and sends it back, some times at the store they notice a problem, and also while going through final quality checks they get sent back through the supply chain.

I was watching discovery HD tonight...it is amazing what crap you will watch just because it is in HD. Hey for the money it was a steal....I have had alot of good luck with referbs...I have a 56 inch Sony rear projection that I brought referbed back in 99 and had not one problem with that either. I have had 3 MP3s that were referbs that work perfectly, I am all bout getting good value.....er but then again...I did dump $25k in that Harley....I should say getting good value with the Benjamins I got left from the other toys!