The only thing I see there for 1,399 is a a 42 inch. The 50 inch is 1,799.

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50" is $1799.
http://www.outlet.philips.com/b2c_re...og&shop=OUTLET

never mind... I see the $400 dollar rebate there now... Sorry.

Nice price, but they are "Factory Renewed," which means "used," right? These are returned TVs that the company refurbishes, correct?

Juan

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Kaefer is correct. Also known as 'refurbished'

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Factory renewed=Customer used return for some problem and sent back to factory. I have heard that sometime the factory renewed have newer firmware than the ones on showroom for same models.
Rick, How is the unit you got?

Okay, I was all ready to get a plasma and now 1080p is all the rage (of course, only once Blu-Ray or HD-DVD gets their act together). I know that Sony has LCDs (rear projection & flat panel) that is true 1080p. There is only one Pioneer plasma (a 50" so far, Pro-HD1) that has true 1080p (not something that upconverts). So what is the verdict with 1080p?

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Doc,
Dunno about the verdict or "projection", (no pun),
but my Sony,NoBaloney 60" LCoS 1080 kicks serious
azz, when it has a top notch signal/source.

Real HDTV, eg HBO, DiscoveryHD, HDNet, et al, are
simply breath taking. The 720 stuff isn't bad, either.
The "regular feeds" look like large, sharp, crap.
My 2cts.
BR,mD

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If you want 1080p, I would go with Pioneer Pro-HD1. Best 1080p out there. Pioneer is the market leader in plasma flat panels. Their 1130 is also a nice plasma.

So far so good...there was not a mark on it, if not for the label I would have though it to be brand new, also not in every case is it a customer gets home and sends it back, some times at the store they notice a problem, and also while going through final quality checks they get sent back through the supply chain.

I was watching discovery HD tonight...it is amazing what crap you will watch just because it is in HD. Hey for the money it was a steal....I have had alot of good luck with referbs...I have a 56 inch Sony rear projection that I brought referbed back in 99 and had not one problem with that either. I have had 3 MP3s that were referbs that work perfectly, I am all bout getting good value.....er but then again...I did dump $25k in that Harley....I should say getting good value with the Benjamins I got left from the other toys!