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Old 09-12-2006, 02:52 PM
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Cops and Crown Vics

Maybe you haven't noticed, but it seems that every police officer drives a Ford Crown Victoria.
With more modern alternatives available, you have to wonder what law enforcement officials find so appealing about the full-sized, American car dating to the late 1970s. Of the 62,545 Crown Victorias sold in 2005, 47,300 were Crown Victoria Police Interceptors - 80 percent of all police cars sold in the United States. Only 6,908 Crown Victorias went to retail buyers, with the remainder going to fleet buyers.

According to Tony Gratson, government sales manager for Ford Motor Company, the car is popular with law enforcement for what it offers: lots of space, rear-wheel drive and a V-8 engine.
"It's a larger car, full-sized. It's much larger than the Chevrolet police car. It has great visibility all the way around," explains Skip Webb, fleet manager at Hall Automotive in Virginia Beach. Webb sells fleet vehicles throughout Virginia, including police cars from all domestic manufacturers, such as the Dodge Charger and Chevrolet Impala.
"The Dodge has limited visibility to the rear. The Chevrolet Impala is not as large a car. Once you put a screen or a barricade behind the driver to protect the officer from whoever is riding in the back seat, it's very limited."
Cpl. Ollan Burruss, of the Norfolk Police Department, says this was a consideration when deciding whether to purchase Impalas.
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When it comes to cop cars, the Ford Crown Victoria remains the dominent choice of law enforcement. Both Chevrolet and Dodge seek to change that.
"When we put the cage in there for the safety of our officers, the seats won't go back far enough. So larger officers have problems getting in and out of the car, and there are restrictions in the back seat. The amount of room they have in the back is limited."
Burruss also says the Ford has a presence that the Chevrolet lacks.
"When you're in the Crown Victoria, people tend to take notice. They're not running red lights, they're paying attention. The car stands out more, and that makes me feel more secure. Even in an unmarked Impala, people do all kinds of stupid stuff, and you're like, 'you know, don't they know I'm a police officer?"
Aside from space and presence, police need their vehicles to be durable - especially patrol cars, which run 24 hours a day, seven days a week. The Crown Victoria is built the same way as most trucks, using body-on-frame construction. This lends the Crown Victoria the durability to withstand the tough demands expected of it, while making it easier to fix than its competitors.
"It's a lot more expensive to repair a front-wheel-drive vehicle than it is a rear-wheel-drive vehicle," says Burruss.
"For a lot of front-wheel-drive vehicles, you've got to drop the transmission and pull the motor. If you have a problem with the driveshaft in a rear-wheel-drive vehicle, you put in new u-joints and you're on your way."
Police departments do buy vehicles other than Crown Victorias. In Norfolk, detectives usually drive Chevrolet Impalas. SUVs, such as the Ford Explorer and Chevrolet Tahoe, are bought for weather emergencies, since Norfolk's streets flood easily. Except for the rear-wheel-drive Tahoe, SUVs aren't pursuit-rated, limiting their usefulness.
Ford has maintained its leadership by setting up a police advisory board to suggest ways of improving the Crown Victoria for police use. This has led to such safety features, as a factory-installed fire-suppression system and ballistic door panels that provide protection from projectiles, including bullets.
It's also led to some extreme testing. Ford is the only manufacturer that rear crash tests their police car at 75 mph, to ensure the front-seat space remains intact in high-speed impacts.
While Ford changes the car to improve its performance or safety, the change is never radical. "Police departments want the car to stay the same, but they want it to improve. For instance, you don't want to make them buy new cages," explains Gratson.
Money is always an issue, not simply in equipping or maintaining the cars, but buying them as well. This is where the Crown Victoria holds the advantage, according to Burruss.
"From what I've been told, the average price is about $25-$26,000 for the Dodge Charger police package. Right now, it costs us $18,000 for a Crown Victoria. For the price of three Chargers, you can buy four Crown Victorias."
This adds up to a vehicle that most departments will continue to buy, according to Webb. "It's been a good vehicle that's lasted a long time for the departments. They would really have to have a reason to change it. The other vehicles have not offered everything that the Crown Victoria does."

Chevrolet Impala
Engine: 3.9-liter 240-horsepower OHV V-6
Transmission: Four-speed automatic
Drive wheels: Front
Alternator: 150 amps
Wheelbase: 110.5 inches
Length: 200.4 inches
Passenger volume: 104.5 cubic ft.
Safety systems: Front-seat airbags, anti-lock disc brakes

Dodge Charger
Engine: 3.5-liter 250-horsepower V-6 or 5.7-liter 340-horsepower V-8
Transmission: Five-speed automatic
Drive wheels: Rear
Alternator: 160 amps
Wheelbase: 120 inches
Length: 200.1 inches
Passenger volume: 120.2 cubic ft.
Safety systems: anti-lock brakes, front seat airbaghs, traction control, electronic stability control, emergency brake assist

Ford Crown Victoria
Engine: 4.6-liter 250-horsepower SOHC V-8
Transmission: Four-speed automatic
Drive wheels: Rear
Alternator: 200 amps
Wheelbase: 114.6 inches
Length: 212 inches
Passenger volume: 106.4 cubic ft.
Safety systems: anti-lock brakes, front seat airbaghs, traction control, optional ballistic door panels, optional fire suppression system
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Old 09-12-2006, 05:28 PM
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I have seen (in my area): Crown Vic, Impala, Charger, Camaro, GTO, Dodge Intrepid, Ford Explorer.
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Old 09-12-2006, 06:17 PM
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Well I drove a 97 Crown Vic once (rental) and that thing was so heavy that in the winter, I couldn't get her to move. The rear wheels just spun.

But it does indeed have amazing space and a crazy trunk.

Around here we have:

Ford Crown Vic
Chevy Impala
Chevy Tahoe
Toyota Sienna (not kidding)
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haha in tuscaloasa alabama they must have a deal with the local merc plant where they build the ml's and r class, because ive seen cops in ml-500's. pretty ridiculous.
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Old 09-12-2006, 07:41 PM
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In our area, the highway patrol also uses BMW motorcycles.
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Old 09-12-2006, 09:59 PM
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NH Highway Patrol uses Crown Vics almost exclusively. Occasionally you'll see a State Trooper driving a Tahoe, and once in a blue moon, you'll see them in an old Lumina. We have a lot of Impala undercover cars.. Concord police has almost entirely Impalas, and some Expeditions. My town has 3 Crown Vics and an Explorer. I saw a Dodge Neon undercover car a few weeks ago on the 93.. Crazy!
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Old 09-13-2006, 11:10 AM
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The reason why is that most cars do not have a interceptor or severe duty version. The Crown Vic is one of the few that have Taxi and Cop packages. In the states there are very few places that you need to be really fast or handle amazing.

Most states have to call off high speed pursuits if they are close to cities, and the highway patrol is faster than the fastest dragster, and handle better than a sport bike or Porsche. They use Radios to move great distances without burning a drop of fuel and they can be in 2 places at once. The vehicle is not used very often to catch anyone, the radios is a better choice.
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Old 09-13-2006, 11:38 AM
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My dad was telling me about some officers in Philly who have been going to training in order to drive the V8 chargers. He told me it was a trip listening to them because the car scares them because of how fast it is.

Good article though, but it's not something I usually think about. If the Crown Vic gets the job done and it's cheap, go for it. As for rear seat space, ummmm... WHO THE FCUK CARES!?!? If you're being tossed in the back of a patrol car, there's a reason for it... and you don't deserve to be comfortable. Oh wait, I'm sorry Mr Criminal, let us call to see if we have the Maybach, 760Li, S550, or Rolls Royce available to haul your ass to jail. After all, we want you to have the most amount of space in the back seat
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