I like your idea, YJ!

Sort of a Lord of the Flies, via Devil's Island, and Darwin at Work deal.

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Sorry to dig up this old thread, but I read an interesting article today which is related:

U.S. Death Sentences Drop to 30-Year Low

The opinion was given by several of you in this thread that the long appeal process should not exist for those on death row, and those convicted and sentenced to death should be executed quickly, perhaps like Saddam Hussein was.

There then was discussion about wrongful executions and the fact that many death sentences have been overturned during later appeals. Your argument about this was that most of these sentences being overturned must have been due to new DNA evidence being introduced. If this was indeed true, then such mistakes would no longer be made as DNA evidence is now used whenever available.

But this article states the following:

Since the death penalty was reinstated, 123 people have been freed from death row after significant questions were raised about their convictions - 14 of them through DNA testing, according to the Death Penalty Information Center.


So out of the 123 cases where people were freed from death row, only 14 (or about 11%) were due to DNA evidence. That means that even with DNA evidence, 109 people would have been wrongfully executed had the appeal process not existed.

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What you fail to point out in your statistics is how many of these "innocents" had a conviction overturned due to some mistake made by the prosecution. Just as in the fact that you think there are wrongly convicted innocents, there are surely some of those guilty bastards let off. I am pretty positive that all 109 were not innocent. The internet, and the world as well, is full of information that can satisfy any argument. I have to live with the fact that some guilty bastard is going to go free due to some technicality. This is in place to try AS BEST AS WE CAN to limit the "conviction" of innocent civillians. But to dismantle the system because of a fear that one innocent person may get caught in the trap is ludicrous (even though you are clearly entitled to your belief) There was an uproar recently with the "botched" execution of a convicted killer in Florida, because he "suffered" a few minutes longer than he should. I am personally glad the bastard suffered. I am sure he suffered less than his victim. However, I also welcome the uproar because it will force society (particularly the state) to a higher standard, which ultimately makes the system of capital punishment "safer" to the innocents.

What society needs to be is responsible for its actions. Period. What is lost in this whole blog is who is absolutely 100% innocent: The child!!! There is simply no justification whatsoever for the crime committed against the child. Noone knows what the lady may or may not have done. I am not one of those who feel she deserved any of her assault, but WE do not know what she may have done to contribute to it. Again, it goes to responsibility. She surely had to know, if they were seperated, that this guy was a little flaky, or domineering, or assanine, or whatever. Why put the child in harms way????? The dude should be clearly put away (I say shot), and not in some fooking rehab joint. My child's safety is above all other's period. It is my RESPONSIBILITY.

The mistake in our constitution is the "cruel and unuasual punishment" clause. In today's language, it should state unusually cruel punishment. Because punishment should be cruel, prisons should be terrible, not fooking hotel rooms. I like to think I am a good looking man. Because of this vain opinion, the main reason I do not commit crimes is because I do not want to become Bubba's bitch. If that were not the issue, I wouldnt mind being locked up to watch Oprah all day on my ass for the rest of my life. It is sad that THAT and my own moral compass prevents me from killing someone. There surely doesnt seem to be any other deterrent the way things are going.

It seems that there are those who do not like the death penalty and those that do. Most who do not like it are probably liberal and most who do like it it are conservative.

What is ironic is that the Democrats are usually associated with looking out for society's victims, while rebublicans are looking out for the big guy. When it comes to crime.....Completely the otherway around!

P.S. EVERYTHING the Government does is more expensive than it should be. If we commercialize death, it would be much cheaper. As a small business owner, I know I could do it for a lot less and get rich

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