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Old 10-23-2006, 07:36 PM
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Can't handle that too well.
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Old 10-23-2006, 09:04 PM
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And if you thought the CNN stuff was bad watch this;

http://www.jonhs.net/911/iraq/sniper_compilation.htm
Seriously, regardless of your views, why would you post that?
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Old 10-23-2006, 09:14 PM
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Just goes to show how much the media "supports the troops."
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Old 10-24-2006, 05:25 AM
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Somebody please call anger management for me!, the next hippie that stops me in the street and hands me a flyer showing our leaders and troops as criminals is going to get more than a smack in the mouth

The media hippies love the "bleeding heart" aspect of war, if they can make people "feel sorry for the loss of life" or turn them against honest soldiers doing their duty, they feel good about themselves!, they feel like they have a purpose on this planet!... Maggots!

The media and the UN can go F**** themselves!


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Man thats tough to watch, I heard on the news of the 2700 troops that were killed more that half are under the age of thirty
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Somebody please call anger management for me!, the next hippie that stops me in the street and hands me a flyer showing our leaders and troops as criminals is going to get more than a smack in the mouth

The media hippies love the "bleeding heart" aspect of war, if they can make people "feel sorry for the loss of life" or turn them against honest soldiers doing their duty, they feel good about themselves!, they feel like they have a purpose on this planet!... Maggots!

The media and the UN can go F**** themselves!


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Very hard to watch. I am extremely upset right know. I just wanna go over there myself and kill every last terrorist mtf there is over there. My friend just got back from Iraq 2 weeks ago. It was his second tme in 2 years. He said it is a nightmare over there. Everday more insurgents come across the border to destabalize Iraq. They just keep coming. Most Iraqis want democracy but are scared to die for it after they see what the terrorists are willing to do. These people are psychopaths. Plain and simple
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Very hard to watch. I am extremely upset right know. I just wanna go over there myself and kill every last terrorist mtf there is over there. My friend just got back from Iraq 2 weeks ago. It was his second tme in 2 years. He said it is a nightmare over there. Everday more insurgents come across the border to destabalize Iraq. They just keep coming. Most Iraqis want democracy but are scared to die for it after they see what the terrorists are willing to do. These people are psychopaths. Plain and simple
Very few of the insurgents are foreign fighters. Our troops are fighting against Iraqis.



Among Insurgents in Iraq, Few Foreigners Are Found

BAGHDAD -- Before 8,500 U.S. and Iraqi soldiers methodically swept through Tall Afar two months ago in the year's largest counterinsurgency offensive, commanders described the northern city as a logistics hub for fighters, including foreigners entering the country from Syria, 65 miles to the west.

"They come across the border and use Tall Afar as a base to launch attacks across northern Iraq," Col. H.R. McMaster, commander of the Army's 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment, which led the assault, said in a briefing the day before it began.

When the air and ground operation wound down in mid-September, nearly 200 insurgents had been killed and close to 1,000 detained, the military said at the time. But interrogations and other analyses carried out in recent weeks showed that none of those captured was from outside Iraq. According to McMaster's staff, the 3rd Armored Cavalry last detained a foreign fighter in June.




US Army admits Iraqis outnumber foreign fighters as its main enemy

Iraqis, rather than foreign fighters, now form the vast majority of the insurgents who are waging a ferocious guerrilla war against United States forces in Sunni western Iraq, American commanders have revealed.

Their conclusion, disclosed to the Sunday Telegraph in interviews over 10 days in battle-torn Anbar province, contradicts the White House message that outsiders are the principal enemy in Iraq.

Of 1,300 suspected insurgents arrested over the past five months in and around Ramadi, none has been a foreigner. Col John Gronski, senior officer in the town, Anbar's provincial capital, said that almost all insurgent fighting there was by Iraqis. Foreigners provided only money and logistical support.




The 'myth' of Iraq's foreign fighters

Report by US think tank says only '4 to 10' percent of insurgents are foreigners.

The US and Iraqi governments have vastly overstated the number of foreign fighters in Iraq, and most of them don't come from Saudi Arabia, according to a new report from the Washington-based Center for Strategic International Studies (CSIS). According to a piece in The Guardian, this means the US and Iraq "feed the myth" that foreign fighters are the backbone of the insurgency. While the foreign fighters may stoke the insurgency flames, they make up only about 4 to 10 percent of the estimated 30,000 insurgents.

The CSIS study also disputes media reports that Saudis are the largest group of foreign fighters. CSIS says "Algerians are the largest group (20 percent), followed by Syrians (18 percent), Yemenis (17 percent), Sudanese (15 percent), Egyptians (13 percent), Saudis (12 percent) and those from other states (5 percent)." CSIS gathered the information for its study from intelligence sources in the Gulf region.

The CSIS report says: "The vast majority of Saudi militants who have entered Iraq were not terrorist sympathizers before the war; and were radicalized almost exclusively by the coalition invasion."

The average age of the Saudis was 17-25 and they were generally middle-class with jobs, though they usually had connections with the most prominent conservative tribes. "Most of the Saudi militants were motivated by revulsion at the idea of an Arab land being occupied by a non-Arab country. These feelings are intensified by the images of the occupation they see on television and the Internet ... the catalyst most often cited [in interrogations] is Abu Ghraib, though images from Guantanamo Bay also feed into the pathology."
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Regardless we're out in 24 months at the latest. No new administration will continue down this road.
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Old 10-25-2006, 02:45 AM
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Regardless we're out in 24 months at the latest. No new administration will continue down this road.
I hope you are right. I suspect however that we will be invading Iran before that 24 months is over.
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