I think they make nice stuff, top end its not but good everyday suits

This would be important to me if i was going to consider purchasing from a clothier. It is recommended that a person look for suit jackets that are fully lined and pants that are lined to the knee. Lining increases comfort and reduces wrinkling.

Adding a crotch liner to your suit pants will reduce the abrasion between your thighs and the fabric. Crotch liners help your pants last longer.

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huh cleaning my own shirts? who the hell cleans/irons their own dress shirts ? I send all of my shirts out and my brooks brothers and perry ellis shirts don't shrink. I don't understand the tailor comment either, how does me saying that josabank suits are cheap, lead to a comment that you think i need a better tailor? imho josabank suits are made of cheaper cloth,, cut poorly and not true to size. My suits are all lined, tailored perfectly and have outlasted the styles, that's for sure (brooks/armani/hugo)

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Ron, I figure you as the guy who stands beside the line to sit on Santa's lap at Macy's and whispers to the kids that it's just a regular dude in a red suit

I've never had a problem with shirts shrinking, no matter where I got them. Some of the newer shirts are actually not recommended for dry cleaning- you're supposed to wash them in cold water in the hand wash cycle or hand wash them in a sink. Not too many dry cleaners know how to launder a shirt the proper way.

Kudos to you for not needing to have your suits altered. My point was that a good tailor lines the pants as they do alterations

For those of us who need more than 5 suits in their closet, 70% off a "cheap suit" ain't a bad deal!

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I had to refresh the suit collection recently...I could've gotten 5 Oxxford suits for, say around $2000 each, but I availed myself to a recent killer JoAB sale and nailed 5 suits for an average $300 or so. I am not putting a bespoke suit jacket in an 'effin plastic bin only to have some Taking Scissors Away throw my shoes on top it

Seated six feet away from a client after being wedged in the AirTran flight MCO to ATL, then grubbing it on the MARTA train to Buckhead (it ain't sexy, but traffic in ATL sux) and following the meeting up with an errant bit of The Palm's salad, potato, or steak on your lap, it really makes no sense to then jump into a taxi cab to Hartsfield International wearing a suit worth more than the taxi.

Plus the JoAB suits are made by orphans in Vietnam and China, so that really helps the kids out.

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You guys that wear under a 46 jacket can buy couture off the rack. Me, I gotta add a minumum $500 to the price for Hermes, Brioni, Prada, etc. to get them to make me a 54L! That's that makes JoAB so attractive.

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dude, what's with all of the assumptions?


Here in ny/nj/li the dry cleaners launder shirts, not dry clean them, and they do it for about $1 a shirt. I don't know about you, but I don't have the time nor the desire to clean/iron them myself. You've never had shirts shrink? move to NY and live here for a summer. Riding the subway in the hot/humid disgusting 100* summer heat, the collars on cheap shirts will shrink about a 1/2" in less than 6 months.

I absolutely need to have suits altered, but the better the cut, the less alterations that need to be done. If a tailor has to add lining, then he's adding lining to a cheap suit, better brands/makes come already lined (if you want lined suits, why not just buy them that way? or is this the mod bug thing rearing it's head but with suits?). The point I was making was that when JosAbank says a jacket is a 44L, it's rarely that size and once you do find one that semi-fits, it needs a lot of alterations (like lowering the collar etc). It's a personal decision, some people like to buy a $200 suit and pay $100 in alterations and have it last 2 years, I prefer to get more classic, better made suits and have them last longer. Minimizing the number of times I have to go through the process of buying suits is a big win . I'ld be happy if i only needed 5, why do you assume that I need less than 5 suits, funny, but I don't remember ever showing you my closet ? I'ld be very happy if i only needed 5, try 20

Long story short? I guess I just don't like JosABank... wow, I said it, and the world kept spinning...


p.s. stop daydreaming about me and Santa, it's creepy

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