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Old 12-12-2006, 05:43 PM
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Throughout this whole thread and many others i have seen on this subject the conversation always centers around the word WE. It comes up a lot as if the people in Iraq are invisible. It's always what "WE" want.

When people say WE who are they referring to any way?
Why cant people just let those who live in Iraq handle their own business?

If the citizens of Iraq want to be Muslims and live under a government based on Islam and not a democracy then why not let them do their own thing. All of this decision making for Iraq is a fruitless effort being spent on individuals who don't apprear to want to live any differently then they are doing right now.

It's really is a decision making process where people make a decision based on the information given and the choices they have.

Enough effort has been made to presant a different way of life to the parties involved and the evidence is clear that it's not what they want.
Me? I'm fine with that.

The answer to me is clear. OK Folks we tried to make it work for ya but since it's clear you would rather not go along with the program then it's time for you to choose your own path. Thanks for giving us the opportunity.

To me that's a win win situation. Lives are saved, people get to exercise free choice, and suits get to preserve their dignity.

Will they keep fighting among themselves. Yes and no. That's not my call. it's theirs. If they want to live in peace then fine stop the killing. But if they enjoy dying then keep on keeping on. The choice is theirs but at least they won't get to blame anyone else for their choices and the only one they will have to answer to regarding their course in life is ALLAH

Now go in peace!!!
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Old 12-12-2006, 06:14 PM
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If we leave, the violence will subside.
Hey the retraction is already in place as we are beginning to pull out the violence keeps increasing...not the most promising for your theory mate

Frankly I just don't care anymore, these peoples have been fighting for thousands of years only difference is we are caught in the middle of it...personally I think the country should be broken down into the three religous regions and made into three countries it would be the best choice to preserve life but in a society where the life of hundreds of people mean nothing to the insurgancy I guess we just let them blow themselves up and take the oil later
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Old 12-12-2006, 06:22 PM
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Hey the retraction is already in place as we are beginning to pull out the violence keeps increasing...not the most promising for your theory mate

Frankly I just don't care anymore, these peoples have been fighting for thousands of years only difference is we are caught in the middle of it...personally I think the country should be broken down into the three religous regions and made into three countries it would be the best choice to preserve life but in a society where the life of hundreds of people mean nothing to the insurgancy I guess we just let them blow themselves up and take the oil later
I agree except for the oil part.

With regard to oil we should take a quarter of the money we are wasting on the war and find altertive fuel.

Our need for oil has inderectly funded the teriost groups. The best thing to happen is that the demand and price for oil drps.
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Old 12-13-2006, 03:12 AM
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these peoples have been fighting for thousands of years
It wasn't long ago (several decades?) that the same could be said for Europe.

Or better yet, care to guess which country has been involved in the most wars (or "military actions") in the past 100 years?


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With regard to oil we should take a quarter of the money we are wasting on the war and find altertive fuel.

Our need for oil has inderectly funded the teriost groups. The best thing to happen is that the demand and price for oil drps.
I agree, but there are many powerful people who are not about to allow that to happen, and unfortunately they have huge influence over most of your elected officials.

Do yourself a favor and see the documentary film "Who Killed the Electric Car?".
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:17 AM
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But all that will happen if we just take our ball and go home now is a civil war and mass genocide by the same people that are killing their coutrymen currently
That's what happens when a bunch of donkeys play ball on someone's court.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:22 AM
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Well then they are obviously an intelligent people who respond to occupation forces by killing there own people, GENIUS.
This might make some sense to you.....they are killing the people that are week enough to be brain washed by this whole Bush bull.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:24 AM
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so what do you recommend should be done? these are the same people that will bomb the voting points as well...so do we let another violent dictator fill the power vacuum by bombing thier own people or do we persevere and continue to assist...remember the actions of the few do not usually follow the beliefs of the many
The Americans should have not got involved like the rest of the world...
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:30 AM
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Hey the retraction is already in place as we are beginning to pull out the violence keeps increasing...not the most promising for your theory mate

Frankly I just don't care anymore, these peoples have been fighting for thousands of years only difference is we are caught in the middle of it...personally I think the country should be broken down into the three religous regions and made into three countries it would be the best choice to preserve life but in a society where the life of hundreds of people mean nothing to the insurgancy I guess we just let them blow themselves up and take the oil later
Your ppl are not leaving they are withdrawing....as far as the rest of what you said ....typical American mentality.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:45 AM
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This might make some sense to you.....they are killing the people that are week enough to be brain washed by this whole Bush bull.

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Old 12-13-2006, 12:57 PM
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The Americans should have not got involved like the rest of the world...
inaction to atrocites is the same as putting the gun to someone's head yourself...if you saw a women being beaten in a parking lot by a man while you were driving to work would you stop to help her? or would you keep driving? the action (or inaction) is no different
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