Face it, the U.S. is damned if they do, damned if they don't from all sides.

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The problem is that the middle east is full of factions and by our moves we have made the situation worse.

Breaking the country up into sections is probably the only way to go.

That plan worked great with Israel in after WWII and pretty well with E. and W. Germany....

Other countries can't come in and split one up, you have to leave, let the inevitable civil war occur and let the nation sort it out sadly.

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Don't understand it did work ok with Germany...........and the current situation is not working. Letting the nation sort it out could mean that the whole middle east goes out of control as groups in other countries back on fraction or another? What are you suggesting?

You don't allow other countries to come in and chop up a nation, it has never worked........ever.

Here is how it is all going to go down (IMO ):
The US will eventually pull out, when this happens Saudi Arabia and the House of Saud will then back the Sunni's in Iraq, at the same time Tehran will back the Shite groups in Iraq. This will lead to a HUGE Middle East war, oil prices will sky rocket (the US will form tighter bonds with Venezuela and Russia since the 'House of Bush' will be gone) and violence will hit epic proportions. Islamic terrorists will stop focusing on the 'West' and start focusing on their neighbors. Afghanistan will go by the way side as Pakistan threats to nuke anyone who comes near it. The US will realize that Tehran is only utilizing 10% of its oil reserves right now and start backing the Shites & Tehran. Turkey will pair up with different fractions of Iraq (similar to the side switching Italy did in WWII), anything to keep the Kurds at bay. At the end of the day it will be a WWIII but involving mainly middle eastern lands with the Western lands realizing there is nothing to gain until the fighting is over. When it finishes you will have two large Shite and Sunni areas that have divided. The US relations will be a whole lot different then they are now and there will be all kinds of new "allies".

Now I didn't even get into what Africa is going to do

BTW, the whole time this is happening Kim Jong will pass on to the next level and S.K and N.K will finally start to work it out.


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...now...back to the liquor.

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"promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare"

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[QUOTE=WagnerX5]You don't allow other countries to come in and chop up a nation, it has never worked........ever.

Here is how it is all going to go down (IMO ):
The US will eventually pull out, when this happens Saudi Arabia and the House of Saud will then back the Sunni's in Iraq, at the same time Tehran will back the Shite groups in Iraq. This will lead to a HUGE Middle East war, oil prices will sky rocket (the US will form tighter bonds with Venezuela and Russia since the 'House of Bush' will be gone) and violence will hit epic proportions. Islamic terrorists will stop focusing on the 'West' and start focusing on their neighbors. Afghanistan will go by the way side as Pakistan threats to nuke anyone who comes near it. The US will realize that Tehran is only utilizing 10% of its oil reserves right now and start backing the Shites & Tehran. Turkey will pair up with different fractions of Iraq (similar to the side switching Italy did in WWII), anything to keep the Kurds at bay. At the end of the day it will be a WWIII but involving mainly middle eastern lands with the Western lands realizing there is nothing to gain until the fighting is over. When it finishes you will have two large Shite and Sunni areas that have divided. The US relations will be a whole lot different then they are now and there will be all kinds of new "allies".

So please explain why dividing the country is worse than the outcome you just outlined?

Explain why you don't make any sense?

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