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Old 12-08-2006, 02:41 PM
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Long Range Wireless Help Needed

Hi Guys,

A coworker of mine lives about 400 ft. away from his parents (trees in between the two houses). He wants to be able to give them access to his wireless network that he has in his house. His parents house is wired for Cat5 so he also wants to convert the wireless to a wired network.

I told him he would need two high power transmitter/receivers and two wireless routers. The question is....what type of equipment would you reccommend? I've never been down this road before, and I know the 'boosters' that Linksys, Netgear, etc. sell are junk. I think he might need some commercial equipment.

Has anyone here ever done this before?

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Old 12-08-2006, 02:46 PM
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Cisco makes stuff like that, but it needs to be wired into the main network.
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:30 PM
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Thanks, thats what I figured....this isn't going to be cheap any way you look at it.

If anyone has done this before, please chime in!!
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:43 PM
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You're not trying to steal my signal, are you Chris?
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You're not trying to steal my signal, are you Chris?
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:59 PM
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Did something similar for a guy at work long ago. Same scenario basically, we needed a narrow-beam signal to go roughly 500ft, no trees. Used a tuned cantenna at the receiving side wired directly into the wifi card, focused at the access point. Used a higher gain directional antenna on the access point. We didn't try it access point-to-access point since that was not needed, but it would have been the exact same thing with the antenna being on the access point instead of on the wifi card. I don't remember the signal strength in dB, but the connection was solid and speed was good. This was on 802.11g, have not tried on pre-N but results should be even better.
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I have this setup and works perfectly...

Internet source <---> wireless bridge <---------> wireless bridge <----> router

Wireless bridge can be a linksys WAP54G configured as a bridge or use an acual bridge WEP54G.

The bridge will only communicate between them and won't care about any other signals... Best setup if there's a lot of interference in between.
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I use Dlink gear.

It is pretty easy to convert a wireless to wired over a fairly substantial distance. You will need to purchase two of these...

http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=292

or something similar. You will put them into bridge mode. They will bridge a wired connection wirelessly. So...in the parents house, you will plug the output of one into the wired network or hub and in your buddy's place, you will plug the input into his router or modem. They key here is the multiple modes supported by this product. It is not just a router.

Hit me up with any other questions. The other was is to get a new N router...which will cover great distances.

http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=530

(that router is awesome) The signal will certainly reach that far. You could then use wireless cards in each PC in the main house. You may find that you need to use a repeater or extra antenna, which is no biggie. This solution does not allow you to use cabling...unless you got a wet.11 device for every computer you want to use the ethernet port on. Wet.11 are devices like this...

http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=333

They are mainly used for single devices like XBox or similar. It would be the perfect solution to whole problem if you could plug it into a hub and get IPs for all attached devices, but it does not give out IP addresses, it is only capable of 1.

Excuse any typos...I think faster than i type.

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the new 802.11n equipment (i like linksys since they are the retail version of cisco equipment) seems to work great in that type of enviornment add the high gain antennas to it and you should be good to go on the transmit side putting it back into wired on the other end I am unsure on how to accomplish though
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Old 12-09-2006, 09:34 AM
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http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=530

(that router is awesome) The signal will certainly reach that far. You could then use wireless cards in each PC in the main house. You may find that you need to use a repeater or extra antenna, which is no biggie. This solution does not allow you to use cabling...unless you got a wet.11 device for every computer you want to use the ethernet port on. Wet.11 are devices like this...

http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=333

They are mainly used for single devices like XBox or similar. It would be the perfect solution to whole problem if you could plug it into a hub and get IPs for all attached devices, but it does not give out IP addresses, it is only capable of 1.

Excuse any typos...I think faster than i type.

Tom
Hey Tom,

Thanks for the info! Do you really think N will reach that far? 400 ft through trees? That is very cool if that is the case. Did the N protocol increase the transmit/receive power, or is it just because its higher up in the frequency chain?

I like your idea about using the gaming console adapter to convert to Ethernet. I have a thought...couldn't you use another router on the other end (that has DHCP server) and plug the gaming adapter into the "Internet" jack on the router and have the gaming adapter act like a cable modem or something? Hmmmm....the router would be looking for a DNS server and a gateway though....would it find it?

I like the idea a lot though. We were looking at 802.11b amplifiers that were like $250 a pop! This sounds much more economical.

Thanks for the help!

Chris
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