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Old 01-22-2007, 03:16 PM
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German, French groups want open iTunes

I know this has been posted and discussed before but with so many other players avaliable and so many other music services avaliable i still don't understand why this is so important. There must be some other motive behind this effort. I mean there is Zune for one and countless other ways for folks to download music. It seems kinda pointless.

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it's all crap anyway if the record companys wern't such greedy aholes to begin with it wouldn't be an issue...I don't buy anything from itunes you just need to know how to get around it's limitations
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Old 01-22-2007, 03:55 PM
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That doesn't answer the legal question though.

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it's all crap anyway if the record companys wern't such greedy aholes to begin with it wouldn't be an issue...I don't buy anything from itunes you just need to know how to get around it's limitations
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I am not discussing the legalities...I am discussing the incompatability of certian CD copyprotection protocols and thier problems interfacing with itunes...you just need a different rip software then import them after they have been converted.
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Old 01-22-2007, 05:50 PM
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Well ok. but it still dosen't answer the legal question which is why i posted it.
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Why should Apple have to make it compatible with other MP3 players? It's their software made for their device. I don't see the problem. If you're mad that iTunes doesn't work for your MP3 player, either use something else to download it, or get an iPod. Then get on with your life.
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Hold on there young fella Don't be coming round here expressing common sense. Ya see................

Currently, song purchased and downloaded through iTunes are designed to work with Apple's market-leading iPod players but not competitors' models, including those using Microsoft Corp.'s Windows Media system. Likewise, iPods generally can't play copy-protected music sold through non-Apple stores. And that is not fair. ( to whom i'm not sure) But Apple has their right arm behind their back, a gun to their head, and a knife in their back.

OH My Oh My Oh My what can a person to do.

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Why should Apple have to make it compatible with other MP3 players? It's their software made for their device. I don't see the problem. If you're mad that iTunes doesn't work for your MP3 player, either use something else to download it, or get an iPod. Then get on with your life.
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Hold on there young fella Don't be coming round here expressing common sense. Ya see................

Currently, song purchased and downloaded through iTunes are designed to work with Apple's market-leading iPod players but not competitors' models, including those using Microsoft Corp.'s Windows Media system. Likewise, iPods generally can't play copy-protected music sold through non-Apple stores. And that is not fair. ( to whom i'm not sure) But Apple has their right arm behind their back, a gun to their head, and a knife in their back.

OH My Oh My Oh My what can a person to do.
This violates anti-trust regulations. Whether or not you think there should be anti-trust laws, there are in some countries. Such laws are on the books in the US but have not been enforced in decades. But they are enforced in Europe.

Anti-trust laws are in place for the benefit of consumers. In reality, the same company should not be allowed to sell both music and music players. Selling both clearly violates anti-trust laws. But instead of telling Apple they cannot do both, they are allowing it with strict regulations.
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The problem I see is that Apple/Itunes was the pioneer to make digital music mainstream. I don't think any other company besides Microsoft could've done it as well as they did. Is it Anti-trust. Maybe. However, Apple spent tons of money in R&D to iron the bugs out. Why should other companies benefit from their hard work?
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Weather This violates anti-trust regulations has yet to be proven in a court of law. As i stated and still believe there's much more to this than meets the eye. Bill gates hinself said the easiest way to defeat this whole thing is go out buy a CD and rip it. Additionally it seems a bit interesting that the plaintif wants Apple to open DRM then turn around and pay Microsoft lic. fees for WMA. But it won't be settled here so I'll wait and read the future legal briefs.

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/m...appleorder.pdf

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This violates anti-trust regulations. Whether or not you think there should be anti-trust laws, there are in some countries. Such laws are on the books in the US but have not been enforced in decades. But they are enforced in Europe.

Anti-trust laws are in place for the benefit of consumers. In reality, the same company should not be allowed to sell both music and music players. Selling both clearly violates anti-trust laws. But instead of telling Apple they cannot do both, they are allowing it with strict regulations.
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