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Eric5273 · #**131** 02-09-2007, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SGT.Santiago

ok eric i didnt spend a year in irak and i dont know the difference between irak and afguanistan i just read everything like you did and this picture here are nothing i wasnt there to see the school and to provide protection to them so they could study and also my family did not send me any clothing for the schools in irak. it so easy for you just to type sh-t you dont even know about.

now what have you done? other than to bitc- about the US and the military. have you tried helping the citizens of irak?

I understand you were there after the war started. I'm pretty sure you were not there prior to 2003, so how would you know about back then?

Everything that has been reported in the last couple of years is that the new govenrment is much more strictly Islamic than the old government. Their new constitution says itself that it is based on Islamic law. The Baathist constitution was secular and was not based on any religion at all. Women had full rights under Saddam's government. Iraq and Turkey were actually the only countries in the entire region that had completely secular governments. One of Saddam's top advisers, Tarik Aziz (his foreign minister, similar to our Secretary of State) was a Christian.

Now since the war, from what I've read, woman are not often seen on the street, and when they are they are usually wearing veils now to cover their faces, for fear of being attacked if they don't. While I'm sure it depends on which part of Iraq you are in, this never used to exist anywhere in Iraq 5 years ago.

While you might have spent a year there, I doubt you are nearly as well read on this stuff as I am. Being there is one thing, but I'm pretty sure the reporters and the Human Rights groups that investigate this stuff know a little more.

In terms of womans rights, the new Iraq is quite similar to Iran. And why wouldn't it be? The government is made up of a bunch of puppets to the Iranian regime.

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SSG.Santiago · #**132** 02-09-2007, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric5273

I understand you were there after the war started. I'm pretty sure you were not there prior to 2003, so how would you know about back then?

Everything that has been reported in the last couple of years is that the new govenrment is much more strictly Islamic than the old government. Their new constitution says itself that it is based on Islamic law. The Baathist constitution was secular and was not based on any religion at all. Women had full rights under Saddam's government. Iraq and Turkey were actually the only countries in the entire region that had completely secular governments. One of Saddam's top advisers, Tarik Aziz (his foreign minister, similar to our Secretary of State) was a Christian.

Now since the war, from what I've read, woman are not often seen on the street, and when they are they are usually wearing veils now to cover their faces, for fear of being attacked if they don't. While I'm sure it depends on which part of Iraq you are in, this never used to exist anywhere in Iraq 5 years ago.

While you might have spent a year there, I doubt you are nearly as well read on this stuff as I am. Being there is one thing, but I'm pretty sure the reporters and the Human Rights groups that investigate this stuff know a little more.

In terms of womans rights, the new Iraq is quite similar to Iran. And why wouldn't it be? The government is made up of a bunch of puppets to the Iranian regime.

dont you think i spoke to the iraquis they told me how it was back then the one year i was there i did have 5 iraquies working for me 2 of them spoke good english in one year you create friendship and i learn a lot from them even some of the language. we even ate together their family would cook for me and my soldiers. but go ahead keep reading your anti american reports.

SuperGreg · #**133** 02-09-2007, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric5273

I understand you were there after the war started. I'm pretty sure you were not there prior to 2003, so how would you know about back then?

Everything that has been reported in the last couple of years is that the new govenrment is much more strictly Islamic than the old government. Their new constitution says itself that it is based on Islamic law. The Baathist constitution was secular and was not based on any religion at all. Women had full rights under Saddam's government. Iraq and Turkey were actually the only countries in the entire region that had completely secular governments. One of Saddam's top advisers, Tarik Aziz (his foreign minister, similar to our Secretary of State) was a Christian.

Now since the war, from what I've read, woman are not often seen on the street, and when they are they are usually wearing veils now to cover their faces, for fear of being attacked if they don't. While I'm sure it depends on which part of Iraq you are in, this never used to exist anywhere in Iraq 5 years ago.

While you might have spent a year there, I doubt you are nearly as well read on this stuff as I am. Being there is one thing, but I'm pretty sure the reporters and the Human Rights groups that investigate this stuff know a little more.

In terms of womans rights, the new Iraq is quite similar to Iran. And why wouldn't it be? The government is made up of a bunch of puppets to the Iranian regime.

Eric, SGT. Santiago has you cornered. He has been there, you have not. You cannot read and post about what he has dealt with. Enough.

Greg

SSG.Santiago · #**134** 02-09-2007, 09:44 PM

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Im out to enjoy my weekend
tomorrow i will clean my 335 and probable i will BBQ some baby back ribs

SuperGreg · #**135** 02-09-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SGT.Santiago

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Im out to enjoy my weekend
tomorrow i will clean my 335 and probable i will BBQ some baby back ribs

O damn, I am a baby back rib aficionado!!

Wagner · #**136** 02-09-2007, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperGreg

Eric, SGT. Santiago has you cornered. He has been there, you have not. You cannot read and post about what he has dealt with. Enough.

Greg

To sit there and tell a soldier who was ACTUALLY THERE, not "Googleing" the web about a topic is ridiculous and just shows a serious lack of respect. Must be nice to fully utilize the freedoms the USA military allows you to have....

I can't believe that level of disrespect...

Wagner · #**137** 02-09-2007, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SGT.Santiago

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Im out to enjoy my weekend
tomorrow i will clean my 335 and probable i will BBQ some baby back ribs

Rock on brother.

Make sure you Google the history of the Baby Back rib

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