IT mgrs/admin/directors, CTOs - Page 4

Thunder22 · #31 02-27-2007, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 4MoJoe

We have 600 plus servers and 2,700 client PC's. This has been bad for us and there are some not so nice bugaboos with Outlook calendaring (or as we call it lovingly Outbreak or Lookout!). So our changes are this weekend and we'll see the fallout next Monday. Can't wait. (sigh) I just dream of the good old days with Novell and GroupWise; life was easier then....

This might help you:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931836

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Thunder22 · #32 02-27-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by the head

My family company electronics distribution covering 18 states in the centeral US...system was written in the late 80's and has been continually modified one of the most stable invintory management systems for our industry over 50% of the companys that started with this system in the 80's/90's are still running it...designed for distirbution logistics and invintory management by SESCOR on Unix platform...we have performed many modifications and a Linux platform transfer over the years...looking at new systems but will probably be a year or two before we get one implimented

Wow, I thought that only a HUGE insurance company would still be on a Cobol based system. (and I used to work at Met Life in the late 80's

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bjo · #33 02-27-2007, 07:02 PM

well, I got everything on our SUS server configured to push the updates for exchange 2003, win xp, and win 2003. Outlook I will do some research on.

Thunder22 · #34 02-27-2007, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bjo

well, I got everything on our SUS server configured to push the updates for exchange 2003, win xp, and win 2003. Outlook I will do some research on.

Outlook takes it's time from the OS.

SANguru · #35 02-27-2007, 10:46 PM

don't even get me started on Groupwise!! There is a good reason why there is not too many SUSE linux or netware shops left!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4MoJoe

We have 600 plus servers and 2,700 client PC's. This has been bad for us and there are some not so nice bugaboos with Outlook calendaring (or as we call it lovingly Outbreak or Lookout!). So our changes are this weekend and we'll see the fallout next Monday. Can't wait. (sigh) I just dream of the good old days with Novell and GroupWise; life was easier then....

SANguru · #36 02-27-2007, 10:48 PM

there are actually quite a few banks still running Z-OS, AS400 mainframes with apps programmed in Cobol. I'm surprised a lot of those survived Y2K but what do I know.. LOL

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Originally Posted by gresch

Wow, I thought that only a HUGE insurance company would still be on a Cobol based system. (and I used to work at Met Life in the late 80's

)

Thunder22 · #37 02-27-2007, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SANguru

don't even get me started on Groupwise!! There is a good reason why there is not too many SUSE linux or netware shops left!

Netware's x.500 runs circles around MS's. If Microsoft ever gets their hands on that model and changes their permissions model, i will become an instant MS fan.

Thunder22 · #38 02-27-2007, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SANguru

there are actually quite a few banks still running Z-OS, AS400 mainframes with apps programmed in Cobol. I'm surprised a lot of those survived Y2K but what do I know.. LOL

I'm surprised that they survived y2k as well.... that's why i said it

SANguru · #39 02-27-2007, 10:59 PM

you can throw security out the door.. do you really think their permissions/authentification method will hold water (ie, loading and unloading of NLMs, netware debugger modes - jumping in and out to bypass security, hacking of NDS files containing passwords which we all know have been done just to name a few even in 6.5.)

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Originally Posted by gresch

Netware's x.500 runs circles around MS's. If Microsoft ever gets their hands on that model and changes their permissions model, i will become an instant MS fan.

Thunder22 · #40 02-27-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SANguru

you can throw security out the door.. do you really think their permissions/authentification method will hold water (ie, loading and unloading of NLMs, netware debugger modes - jumping in and out to bypass security, hacking of NDS files containing passwords which we all know have been done just to name a few even in 6.5.)

I'm just talking about how file/directory permissions are set within the admin tools. i.e. to give your id access to directory xyz in netware i simply give you permission to that directory and you can map to it.

The same thing in MS means that the user has to be able to see the ENTIRE directory structure from the root to the directory and they have to be DENIED access to all of the other directories up the tree from the target directory.

It's ridiculous.

Don't even get me started on group permissioning.

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