More Gas Price BS. - Page 3

Quicksilver · #21 03-06-2007, 06:24 PM

Your working on the conclusion that people could afford to live in SFO on the $945.00 extra a month? Well that would be fine if indeed there was some place to live if all those people decided to move there. Thats where i believe your argument falls short. Not only that but there's the I prefer not to live there factor. Just imagine it everyone who work's in SFO lives right there. Think about it! Not very pratical is it? Not even sensible.

You want sensible? Think "key system". You want idiotic? Lets remove it cause we are smart. Now what you have are fools dressed up in suits.

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Originally Posted by The Cleaner

I don’t really buy the argument that people can’t afford to live close to work. In fact one can argue it’s more expensive to drive 50 miles each way to get to work than it is to buy closer to work.

Bridges in the bay area are 4-5 bucks a day and many people have to cross 2 per day, diving 25k miles a year will wear out a car every 5 years, so that about 25 dollars a day in car payments. Ad in lets say 5 gallons of gas a day at 3 bucks is 15 more dollars a day. So just to get to work we are talking roughly 45 bucks a day, average 21 working days a month and you have 945 dollars a month to get to work. I don’t include insurance or cost of your time in that calculation. It’s a generally fair number. 945 paid into a mortgage can significantly improve your buying power.

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blondboinsd · #22 03-06-2007, 06:28 PM

Same with San Diego, not everyone can afford to Pay 600+ for a condo in the San Diego metro area OR want to live downtown, I'd LOVE to take the train or trolly to my work, but there is nothing besides a bus I would use, no way I'm doing that

Wagner · #23 03-06-2007, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Cleaner

I actually ratchet the post down a lot from what I wanted to say. I don’t really buy the argument that people can’t afford to live close to work. In fact one can argue it’s more expensive to drive 50 miles each way to get to work than it is to buy closer to work.

Bridges in the bay area are 4-5 bucks a day and many people have to cross 2 per day, diving 25k miles a year will wear out a car every 5 years, so thats about 25 dollars a day in car payments. Add in lets say 5 gallons of gas a day at 3 bucks is 15 more dollars a day. So just to get to work we are talking roughly 45 bucks a day, average 21 working days a month and you have 945 dollars a month to get to work. I don’t include insurance or cost of your time in that calculation. It’s a generally fair number. 945 paid into a mortgage can significantly improve your buying power.

You need to check out the real estate market then. My current home, 4000sqft cost lets say north of 3/4 of a million. Now a home near my work at 2600sqft costs the same and is 15 years older. That downsize is not an option.

The Cleaner · #24 03-06-2007, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WagnerX5

You need to check out the real estate market then. My current home, 4000sqft cost lets say north of 3/4 of a million. Now a home near my work at 2600sqft costs the same and is 15 years older. That downsize is not an option.

I'm hip to the prices, I have a home that is no place close to 4000sqft, it's a shade less than 1700 with my latest addition. Build in 63 and looks similar to everyone else's in the area. 5 minutes from SFO and about that far from my job It's worth a similar number to your 4000sqft set up. My point was only that it's not a strong argument to state that many commuters cant afford to live close to work, the reality is they choose not to for the schools, the square footage or weather. Whatever the reason it's not financial and I am of the opinion that commuters should pay for the miles they drive in fuel taxes.

I know it's not popular but I can live with the criticism.

AzNMpower32 · #25 03-06-2007, 07:30 PM

All higher gas prices will do is increase demand for those "hybrids".

(shudders) It won't really reduce driving or increase public transportation that much.

bjo · #26 03-06-2007, 07:38 PM

All of us here can afford to buy X5's, we have to live with the decisions we make. If gas is too expensive for you downsize to a smaller more fuel efficient car.

Our gas is cheaper than most places in the world.

Wagner · #27 03-06-2007, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bjo

All of us here can afford to buy X5's, we have to live with the decisions we make. If gas is too expensive for you downsize to a smaller more fuel efficient car.

Our gas is cheaper than most places in the world.

Every time someone posts this comment...

Think about others for crying out loud. Just cause it works for your financial situation doesn't mean it works for others..no wonder people dislike Bimmer owners. That is the type of opinion they hear. As for the cheaper then the rest comment, again...everyone says this. I guess Iraqis should shut the hell up because they pay 2.00 a gallon for fuel.....when it use to be pocket change, but hey they are cheaper then the rest....

That logic makes zippy sense. Basically screw others, think only of your situation...and no matter what your situation, if you have it better then others...don't comment.

Curious Joel · #28 03-06-2007, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AzNMpower32

All higher gas prices will do is increase demand for those "hybrids".

(shudders) It won't really reduce driving or increase public transportation that much.

I bet it would increase use of public transportation if we had consistent, reliable, wide-spread public transportation. For example, look at Europe. The railways and buses run like clockwork, and make it easy to get just about anywhere.
Where I live, my choice is either drive or walk. And believe me, there isn't anything within walking distance of my house. The nearest thing I could walk to would be a gas station, and that would take like.. an hour. In Concord, the city closest to me, there is the CAT.. Concord Area Transit. It's not worth it to use it though.

Quicksilver · #29 03-07-2007, 12:01 AM

How funny.

Guess you never heard of people living beyond their means huh?

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Originally Posted by bjo

All of us here can afford to buy X5's

AzNMpower32 · #30 03-07-2007, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Curious Joel

I bet it would increase use of public transportation if we had consistent, reliable, wide-spread public transportation. For example, look at Europe. The railways and buses run like clockwork, and make it easy to get just about anywhere.

+1. The Metro (subway) system in DC works decently, but unless you live in the suburbs and need to get downtown, it's slower and inefficient. The lines run like a star, with each line going downtown and then back out to another suburb/area.

Also, the busses are even worse. The walk to my nearest bus stop is 10min, but that line gets from point A (my stop) to point B (the metro stop) via points C thru Z. So even if you took the bus, it'd take forever.

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