If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, quacks like (or lies) like a duck it's a good chance that it's a moose? Naw.......... this should be easy to answer based on reputation.

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ROYAL MARINE BASE CHIVENOR, England - British sailors and marines held for nearly two weeks in Iran were blindfolded, bound and threatened with prison if they did not say they had strayed into Iranian waters, a Royal Navy lieutenant who was among the capitives said Friday.

Gee... do ya think???

Is there someone who didn't think that all was BS??

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You know, I don't think you do know what I believe...

I don't doubt for one second that the confessions were coerced. I said that before in another thread. That is why you can't trust confessions as evidence of a crime. A confession can be used as supporting evidence, but when the confession is the only evidence, then you have nothing worth trusting.




Do you mean like this??









Do you mean like this?







Maybe they are simply following our wonderful example.

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I think I know what you believe based on what you said you believe, that the British sailers probably went into Iranian waters by accident. Do you still believe they did and are lying? Wouldn't surprise anyone here, I'm sure.

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At this point, I'm somewhat undecided. If I had to guess, I would say one of the following 3 possibilities:

1) Iranian patrol made a mistake in picking them up and then the Iranian government lied in order to save face rather than admit a mistake

2) The British were indeed in Iranian waters and they were the ones that lied and then held their ground

3) When this incident first occured, I remember reading that the border between what is Iranian waters and what is Iraqi waters had been distputed since the end of the Iran/Iraq war. So perhaps there is not agreement on what is Iranian/Iraqi waters. And that too could be clouding the issue.

But no, I absolutely do not see as a possibility that the Iranian government ordered their soldiers specifically to go into Iraqi waters and capture British soldiers in an attempt to start a conflict.

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"Absolutely do not see as a possibility" Great Eric...But you do see a "possibility" our government planted explosives in the WTC tower to bring about a collapse.

Nice one...

How about this possibility. Iraq having done this same stunt prior decided to get a little "PR" to address the recent sanctions imposed by your beloved UN. This conveniently coincided with Nancy Pelosi's visit to Syria who in fact took credit for brokering the release of the Brits on the same day she visited that rouge nation. Now the Iranians get to look like nice guys protecting their waters which you approvingly call disputed even thought the only ones disputing the boarders are the Iranians.

Way to go Eric...

Michael

Nice Eric. Compare the timid Brits to terrorists who fly passenger airliners into buildings and detonate car bombs in schools and markets.

BTW...Not one of the photos above disturbed me in the slightest. Have you seen the inside of San Quentin Prison? My guess is you are appalled by any forced imprisonment. The first two photos are laughable...Do you expect us to keep these terrorist suspects at a resort with a pool?

The photo with the dog...LOL. Dogs are considered dirty animals in Islam and they would just as soon slit the throat of the dog if allowed. I don't see the dog mauling the prisoner unlike the treatment our soldiers underwent in our enemies camps. If it takes a restrained dog to get information from these killers I could care less.

The last photo of the naked bleeding prisoner. We have no way of knowing who caused his injury or the circumstances of the situation. The one officer looks to be in full gear with field patrol equipment. For all we know he could have been injured in a suicide blast and pulled to safety by our troops. As for his naked condition...Any terror suspects should be stripped to reveal any concealed bombs or weapons.

Your idea of the world is distorted by your unrealistic expectation that if we only pacified our enemies the world would be a better place. If things were as you wish back in the 1940's you would now be a buried in a pit somewhere in Germany.

Michael

None of the people in those pictures did any of those things. In fact, none of the people in those pictures (and not a single person being held at Camp X-Ray) has even been charged with a crime, let alone been convicted of anything. For all you know, they could all be innocenct.

If they are guilty, then why hasn't the evidence been presented in a court and why haven't they been convicted?

To this day, there has not been a single prosecution of any prisoner from Camp X-Ray, and most of them who were originally there have since been released with no apology, some of them having been tortured and held for several years for no reason at all except for having been in Afghanistan in 2001, a country where 24 million people live.

More than half of those originally imprisoned at Camp X-Ray have since been released, with no reason ever given for why they were imprisoned in the first place.

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