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Old 04-16-2007, 11:44 AM
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Gas prices will continue to fluctuate. I ddin't hear anyone complaning when it was @ $1 less per gallon earlier this year?

I have a some solutions that most people don't want to hear..buy a fuel efficient vehicle, carpool, take public transport, or (gasp) drive less....

those aren't solutions...just band-aids on a shotgun wound.
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:54 AM
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those aren't solutions.
'splain to me why not?

Gas prices do hurt me since it takes away from savings and other things I would like to spend $$ on. However, I try to find alternatives instead of complaining. My wife now takes the park and ride bus to downtown to save on fuel costs and wear and tear since she has that option. We also carpool with friends/family when we all go the same place. I would take the bus, but it is near the park and ride so I would not be saving much
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:59 AM
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Um, reliance on oil as a fuel source is the problem...simply altering how much you use the fuel source doesn't cure the problem.

Side Note: Exxon has been either #1 or #2 on Fortune 500 since 1955.
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Premium ranges from $2.89-$2.99 here right now.
It was $3.069 @ Costco in Gilbert yesterday. Where do you get gas?
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It was $3.069 @ Costco in Gilbert yesterday. Where do you get gas?
Chevron here in Chandler. Have not been by there in 2 days though, so it may have changed ??
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Old 04-16-2007, 12:49 PM
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Um, reliance on oil as a fuel source is the problem...simply altering how much you use the fuel source doesn't cure the problem.

Side Note: Exxon has been either #1 or #2 on Fortune 500 since 1955.
I would like to not rely on oil as well, but in the meantime what are our options? BIofuels are 5-10 yrs away from being at every corner gas station. Hybrids? What do you propose as a temporary solution until we wean off of oil?
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Old 04-16-2007, 12:57 PM
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Why is everyone under the media/government guise that we need a temporary interim solution? There should be a push for Hydrogen fuel now, plain and simple. E85, while great, is going to be a smoke screen over a problem. The second feed costs and farm subsidies take their toll, the consumer will once again be pushing out high costs for daily essentials.

The only way to get people to realize that is to make gasoline $8, $9, $10.00 a gallon. The person screwed the most by this, the middle-class/lower-class worker. Then people might actually demand that technology that has been, in theory, around since 1950 could actually be in place.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_vehicle
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Why is everyone under the media/government guise that we need a temporary interim solution? There should be a push for Hydrogen fuel now, plain and simple. E85, while great, is going to be a smoke screen over a problem. The second feed costs and farm subsidies take their toll, the consumer will once again be pushing out high costs for daily essentials.

The only way to get people to realize that is to make gasoline $8, $9, $10.00 a gallon. The person screwed the most by this, the middle-class/lower-class worker. Then people might actually demand that technology that has been, in theory, around since 1950 could actually be in place.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_vehicle
I would like Hydrogen/biofuels/unobtainafuel as well, but until the infrastructure is in place across the country, no one will buy an alternative fuel car. Chicken and egg syndrome.
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There will be no gasonline alternatives unless the oil companies allow it. You guys still do not understand who calls the shots and who decides what energy sources you will use.

You really need to watch this film:

http://www.sonyclassics.com/whokilledtheelectriccar/
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