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Old 04-18-2007, 12:00 PM
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I have no problem with Black or Hispanic people but I do have a problem with Black on Black gang violence and Hispanic gangs spreading across our Nation.

If what you say is true and this is purely a socioeconomic problem the numbers should show a significantly higher rate of white murders in this Country. Whites make up most of the population and thus have a higher number of poor spread across America. Yes it is true that a higher percentage of Blacks and Hispanics fall under the poverty level; however, there are still many more whites who qualify as indigent poor.

That fact would suggest that the murder rate would be statically higher for whites who make up most of the poverty ranks when in fact blacks commit 7 times more of the murders. How do you explain that?

Tell me how the guy in the Pimped out Escelade with 24 inch dubs spilling out bullets from his Mack10 leaving the local club has socioeconomic issues. Tell me again how the Mexican Mafia controlling most of the drug trade in the Southern half of the US is suffering socioeconomically.

Yes there are white gangs such as the Aryan brotherhood. Plenty of violence there but in fact they are a minority in terms of numbers of gangs.

Don't go away because you lost the argument. This has nothing to do with racism. Bill Cosby correctly points this out all the time and I respect his candor and honesty. This can't be ignored and the cycle of violence needs to stop. But it can't stop if people like yourself make false excuses about poverty being the cause.

Remember you can't list facts that aren't PC!
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:01 PM
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What really worries me is the freaks who see all this media coveredge and will try and stage a copycat attack, that is what REALLY freaks me out
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Remember you can't list facts that aren't PC!
Check your quotes, I didn't write that!!
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I have no problem with Black or Hispanic people but I do have a problem with Black on Black gang violence and Hispanic gangs spreading across our Nation.

If what you say is true and this is purely a socioeconomic problem the numbers should show a significantly higher rate of white murders in this Country. Whites make up most of the population and thus have a higher number of poor spread across America. Yes it is true that a higher percentage of Blacks and Hispanics fall under the poverty level; however, there are still many more whites who qualify as indigent poor.

That fact would suggest that the murder rate would be statically higher for whites who make up most of the poverty ranks when in fact blacks commit 7 times more of the murders. How do you explain that?

Tell me how the guy in the Pimped out Escelade with 24 inch dubs spilling out bullets from his Mack10 leaving the local club has socioeconomic issues. Tell me again how the Mexican Mafia controlling most of the drug trade in the Southern half of the US is suffering socioeconomically.

Yes there are white gangs such as the Aryan brotherhood. Plenty of violence there but in fact they are a minority in terms of numbers of gangs.

Don't go away because you lost the argument. This has nothing to do with racism. Bill Cosby correctly points this out all the time and I respect his candor and honesty. This can't be ignored and the cycle of violence needs to stop. But it can't stop if people like yourself make false excuses about poverty being the cause.
I'm not arguing nor am I trying to change your mind, nice try including Bill Cosby in your response. Anyway, like I said I'm done with you!
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Check your quotes, I didn't write that!!
So you don't dispute the facts? Or are you just going to call me names and stick by your story that violence in America is for the most part poverty driven?
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:23 PM
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Okay, I'm lost now, who is quoting who?
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I'm not arguing nor am I trying to change your mind, nice try including Bill Cosby in your response. Anyway, like I said I'm done with you!
Sorry the facts don't agree with your position. Pull the covers over your head and continue to believe what is being spoon fed to you by Al and Jessie.

BTW...Bill Cosby has it right.
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Okay, I'm lost now, who is quoting who?
Yeah I noticed that also. The Quote feature burps every so often.
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:46 PM
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Now to quote one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on this topic:

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Jim Purtillo, editor and published of the pro-gun rights newsletter Tripwire, said much of the blame for the high death toll should go to the administration of Virginia Tech for its policy prohibiting the carrying of concealed weapons on campus. He said that if other students in the vicinity had been carrying guns they would have had a chance to stop the killer.

"A gun-free zone is a place where a thug can wreak havoc with impunity," he said.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nat...tory?track=rss

I could see multiple frat-party shootings right now if this wasn't the case.....
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:55 PM
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I have no problem with Black or Hispanic people but I do have a problem with Black on Black gang violence and Hispanic gangs spreading across our Nation.

If what you say is true and this is purely a socioeconomic problem the numbers should show a significantly higher rate of white murders in this Country. Whites make up most of the population and thus have a higher number of poor spread across America. Yes it is true that a higher percentage of Blacks and Hispanics fall under the poverty level; however, there are still many more whites who qualify as indigent poor.

That fact would suggest that the murder rate would be statically higher for whites who make up most of the poverty ranks when in fact blacks commit 7 times more of the murders. How do you explain that?

Tell me how the guy in the Pimped out Escelade with 24 inch dubs spilling out bullets from his Mack10 leaving the local club has socioeconomic issues. Tell me again how the Mexican Mafia controlling most of the drug trade in the Southern half of the US is suffering socioeconomically.

Yes there are white gangs such as the Aryan brotherhood. Plenty of violence there but in fact they are a minority in terms of numbers of gangs.

Don't go away because you lost the argument. This has nothing to do with racism. Bill Cosby correctly points this out all the time and I respect his candor and honesty. This can't be ignored and the cycle of violence needs to stop. But it can't stop if people like yourself make false excuses about poverty being the cause.
I ask the question again, "why do you think that is the case?"

Do you think it is in the genes that black people are more likely to commit murder? If that is the case, then it would seem to follow that the highest murder rates in the world would be African nations. But while a few of them are high up on the list, most are not.

And my next question for you is "what should our leaders do to fix this problem?" Or do you think nothing at all can be done and we are stuck with having this insanely high murder rate in our inner cities forever?
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