A new skill for my resume..

[B-Line]

Hey Gang,

Had a great weekend. My bro and I went to stunt driving school at Camarillo apt. (about an hour outside Los Angeles) with www.bobbyoremotorsports.com.

It was an amazing and rough two days where we learned to:
shuffle steer, forward 180's, reverse 180's and box park.

There were six of us in the class and we were driving Ford Escort ZX2, two door vehicles. My arm is blasted today from all the E-Brake yanking and banking.

I have to say, it is absouletely amazing to see what Bobby Ore and his crew are able to do with cars. It's scary how precise and the speeds they are able to execute the craziest vehicle manuevers you have ever seen, with relative ease.

We even got to play a bit. Yesterday morning, one of the instructors showed up in a Dodge Viper, I was in Mr. Animal (911 Turbo) and we did some 1/4 mile racing on the runway. We did 4 runs. The Viper won 2 and I won 2.

My bro and I both passed the final test which consisted of a slalomn into a forward 180, into a second forward 180, into a box park, into a reverse 180, into a second box park.

So who wants to let me borrow their car for an afternoon?

-B

[cmyX6go]

That's pretty cool B

[B-Line]

Thanks L,

It really was a blast..

[noncom23]

I like to see some pics B, but I'll hang on to my car.

How much does something like that cost?

[hayaku]

Originally Posted by noncom23

I like to see some pics B, but I'll hang on to my car.

How much does something like that cost?

about $1650 for the beginners class and $2000 for the advance if i recall correctly...

well worth the price to learn car control very very very quickly. however, that shuffle steering method screws me up on the race track and my driving coaches there always end up slapping me upside my helmet for doing that...

j-turns fwd and rev, you can practice that when your tires are balding out since you are gonna flat spot them anyways...

[B-Line]

Hayaku,

Interesting you say that. I am sort of anxious to try the shuffle steering method on the track and see how it works for me.
I can understand that "non-shuffle" (9 and 3) steering instructors might slap you in the helmet for driving that way, but that doesn't make them correct.

I understand Bobby's method for steering and the 9 and 3 guys. It's two differnet ways to skin the same cat. I think they probably both work, equally.
I can certainley agree with Bobby that crossing over wrists can be very, very clumsy. But I can also understand the 9&3 method for certain situations.

Right now, I'm enjoying the learning of shuffle steering so I'm going to dial it in, until it's second nature. Then if I want to switch between the two methods, I have both skills in my tool belt.

And, I think the price was $1800 for two days.. It went up a couple bucks I guess. It's also taught at Sebring in Florida.

B

[cmyX6go]

I know what 9 and 3 is but what do you mean by shuffle, feed the wheel through your hands as opposed to turning hand over hand?

[hayaku]

Originally Posted by cmyX5go

I know what 9 and 3 is but what do you mean by shuffle, feed the wheel through your hands as opposed to turning hand over hand?

the bobby ore method is your hands never leave the steering wheel, you slide it up and down. say you want to shuffle to the left. your left hand starts at 9 and grips the wheel tight to rotate the wheel down to 6. your right hand starts at 3 and slides down to 6 loosely. then you grip with your right as you rotate the wheel up to 12, left hand is loose and slides up to 12. that way, one hand is always turning the wheel while one is sliding, no wasted effort and no crossing hands. one hand is gripping and turning, the other is sliding...

traditional way of shuffle is cross over of hands.

in the race cars i've used, the steering wheel is locked at just 20 degrees of steering, thats about 1.25 revolutions of the steering wheel, so shuffling isn't really neccessary. in my car, if i have to cross hands to correct a slide, i'm beyond saving it...

[cmyX6go]

Thanks A!

[SuaveX5]