A solution for red light/speed cameras - Page 3

B-Line · #21 06-30-2005, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaefer

B-Line,

Though I agree with most of what you say, we SHOULD take some responsibility for this. We all know we should not cross a yellow light "late." If it's been on for more than two seconds, stop! It will probably turn red before you cross. Also (and I assume all lights work the same), here in Charlotte, the red-light cameras actually take two pictures: after the first (half of a second later, if I remember correctly), it takes a second picture. If you're still in the intersection when the SECOND picture is taken, you're in violation, and a ticket will be mailed to your house. If not, you're free and clear. This protects those against whom the light may have changed after they entered the intersection.

Also, a local tv station here did some tests with that spray AND with hair spray... none worked. The pictures were just as clear! So, save your money, and do not run yellow lights!

Juan

Juan...

Come one !!! Do you really think I intentionally run red lights.. Or unintentionally for that matter !! NO, I DON'T.. Considering I know how to get 10/10's out of my brakes, (we like to call it THRESHOLD braking at the track !)
-- Now case in point. Just cause I know how to stop my vehicle at highest rate possible does not mean the schmuck behind me yapping to his agent on his cell phone while drinking a latte, knows how to stop his car on time.
So, in the event that I make a judgement, be it a wet road, or tailgater, or what ever other reason I deem that my judgement as a driver is better than that of a traffic light.. If I feel it is safer to go through the light than jam my brakes causing whip lash or whatever else, so be it..
And if a cop wants to give me a ticket.. also, so be it..
But that does not justify me getting a ticket from a company like Lockheed Martin because they control the intersections. And yes, in instances, stop lights at these intersections have been tampered to make yellow lights shorter in the hopes of generating more tickets.

- So, in conclusion.. This retort is not because I like blowing through red lights at child intersections, near schools, when I see a ball roll out into the street.. It is because these lights/photo radar and the CORPORATIONS that run them will do what ever they can do screw the citizen to generate revenue..

Again, they are PROVEN to be traps designed for one thing and one thing only. REVENUE.. FOR CORPORATIONS and the STATE.. 1 of every 3 dollars goes to the company operating the RADAR !! which have shortened Yellows to give tickets..

DAMN THE MAN.. NO ROGER NO RERUN NO RENT !!!!

B

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dsheli · #22 06-30-2005, 10:48 PM

Ours use this new laser to read the plates. So... That 20 dollar spray you get at the store does not work.

X5Flyboy · #23 07-01-2005, 01:35 AM

What hasn't been mentioned yet is the fact there is no law defining what the 'time' of the yellow light should be in relation to the posted speed. Out here in Idaho Falls, most of the intersections are governed by 'smart' lights that adjust the traffic lights to the flow of traffic. There is a max time limit, but no sitting at an empty interection waiting for a light. Of course, they are more expensive to install, but they remove any reason you may have for running a red light. Personnally, my motto is the old Barretta TV one,"If you can't do the time, Don't do the crime!"
The other problem is the selective enforcement of the laws by the police. Many don't want to be bothered. They are there only to writeup the aftermath. Granted some of that is mandated by higher up officials and I won't go further into THAT thread other than to say Guiliano proved enforcement of ALL laws works better than all the excuses not to.
If these red light cameras are on the wrong intersections, get the media and public involved. Make sure there is a litmous test on why an intersection gets a camera. Of course, the news media have there own agenda. THAT'S another thread I don't want to pursue here other than to tell you to apply the 5 W's of reporting news...Who,What,Where,When,Why. You will be lucky to find 3-4 of these elements in most stories. You will find you are rarely getting the WHOLE story. I've been tempted to go down to my local paper to find out if they even know the 5 W's.
I digress, forgive me. "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!" The issue of running lights should not be about revenue or even law enforcement. It should be about saving lives, Enuf said.

X5Jones · #24 07-01-2005, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaefer

Well, several states (California being one of them) have already turned the cameras off (or are considering doing so) noting the possible violation of our constitution. (The use of these cameras is also being challenged in courts in several states.) So, I have the feeling this may not last too much longer.

Juan

Wow, lucky you guys have a constitution! we have nothing

I'm surprised California is turning them off! even if they are unconstitutional!

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