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Old 07-04-2007, 01:08 PM
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WTF? Um, both my posts agreed with one another. You're rambling at this point....I don't care about the political ties, I care about money vs lives on this one.
I don't want to start a pissing_match with you because I happen to think you are an OK guy.

That said you refer to Libby (Twice) as someone who gave away a covert CIA name. That did not happen and is a complete mis-characterization his role in this circus.

There were no lives at stake as a result of his actions because Plame and her jet-setting husband were already on the talk-show circuit.

As for Money...Wait until the Plame book hits the shelves.
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:09 PM
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I don't want to start a pissing_match with you because I happen to think you are an OK guy.

That said you refer to Libby (Twice) as someone who gave away a covert CIA name. That did not happen and is a complete mis-characterization his role in this circus.

There were no lives at stake as a result of his actions because Plame and her jet-setting husband were already on the talk-show circuit.

As for Money...Wait until the Plame book hits the shelves.
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:28 PM
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I tried to be brief but you gentleman are correct in your technical symantics however the truth is still clear that Clinton lied about sex and Peter-Sceeter Libby lied about his direct knowledge of the origin of the leak that may have had national security implications and again not to mention the saftety and wellbeing of a CIA operative...I don't think a blow-job and some fragrant cigars are matters of national security or importance. With an approval rating of less than 25% in most accounts this is the worst thing that Bushy could have done at this partcular time. I won't get into any more of a political debate (especially on 7/4) but I don't know how people can still defend the actions of a bird faced dope like Bush (and this coming from a registered Republican). And with that enjoy your 7/4.
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I find it interested when people say "clinton getting a bj" has no impact on security etc etc.

Alll that had to happen, and we don't know that it didn't, was for some foreign government find out about the affair and use it as leverage with Clinton under threat of exposing the relationship.

That being said, all politicians suck, no matter what side of the fence you're on, why everyone is so surprised when another one does something stupid is fairly entertaining.
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I don't want to start a pissing_match with you because I happen to think you are an OK guy.

That said you refer to Libby (Twice) as someone who gave away a covert CIA name. That did not happen and is a complete mis-characterization his role in this circus.

There were no lives at stake as a result of his actions because Plame and her jet-setting husband were already on the talk-show circuit.

As for Money...Wait until the Plame book hits the shelves.

wow, i just realized where you live, do you have to wear a flak jacket every day being a republican in SF? Now THAT'S living dangerously lol!
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wow, i just realized where you live, do you have to wear a flak jacket every day being a republican in SF? Now THAT'S living dangerously lol!
I'm in the North Bay (Sonoma County) which once you pass Marin County becomes a bit more Conservative. It's just easier to say the Bay Area for those who don't know specific locations in California.

Really I should be saying "Wine Country" which is Sonoma County, Mendocino County and Napa County. Problem there is that most associate "Wine Country" as Napa alone.

That said, Conservatives are quiet around these parts.
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I'm in the North Bay (Sonoma County) which once you pass Marin County becomes a bit more Conservative. It's just easier to say the Bay Area for those who don't know specific locations in California.

Really I should be saying "Wine Country" which is Sonoma County, Mendocino County and Napa County. Problem there is that most associate "Wine Country" as Napa alone.

That said, Conservatives are quiet around these parts.

I"ll be in your area in August sampling some of those tasty wines
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I"ll be in your area in August sampling some of those tasty wines
Hwy 101 into Healdsburg then North to Alexander Valley. Followed by Hwy 128 into Anderson Valley North to Mendocino and the Hwy 1 coast.

That beats Napa hands down. You won't find better wines and a more beautiful drive.

Unless you find yourself in Italy. BTW August is wonderful in this area.
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Hwy 101 into Healdsburg then North to Alexander Valley. Followed by Hwy 128 into Anderson Valley North to Mendocino and the Hwy 1 coast.

That beats Napa hands down. You won't find better wines and a more beautiful drive.

Unless you find yourself in Italy. BTW August is wonderful in this area.

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