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Old 08-03-2007, 02:15 PM
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Is this just consumer sales? Do fleet sales count, ie rentals? If so that would explain the cobalt.

Also this says Ford F-series. So that includes the range of 150's 350's...
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Is this just consumer sales? Do fleet sales count, ie rentals? If so that would explain the cobalt.

Also this says Ford F-series. So that includes the range of 150's 350's...
I have a suspicion that it does include fleet sales and without the rental car and corporate fleets, the Big 3 would have gone under a long time ago.
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Let's see...
Ford owns Hertz, and GM owns Avis, right? (I'm sure I'm leaving out the smaller companies)
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Let's see...
Ford owns Hertz, and GM owns Avis, right? (I'm sure I'm leaving out the smaller companies)
Really? I didnt know this. I mean I guess it makes sense when you look at the vehicle line-ups.

Does that mean BMW has a stake in Enterprise since those seem to be the only crappy cars they loan out at the stealer?
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Heh! I wouldn't be surprised!

Actually, at my local dealer, they usually give you a BMW, but their policy is that they have to "know" they'll have the car for over 4 hours before they'll give you a loaner.
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I'm shocked to see the Prius ahead of the Ford Focus and Escape!
Because Ford's quality sucks Nothing shocking about that. Toyota is way ahead of the competition.
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Ford sold Hertz, but Hertz still has 99% Ford models
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+1 on rentals, also government and cheapass corporate fleets.

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+1 on rentals, also government and cheapass corporate fleets.

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Ford has turned their quality & reliability completely around in the last 4 years. I bet you your old volvo that the Fusion has better reliabilty than the 2002 745Li
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I'll give you that even my 2004 Touareg was better than the early E65's. However, my 2006 Volvo Focus begs to differ 1000000% that they have turned anything around.
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