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Old 08-08-2007, 07:41 AM
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Go roids, get your groove on. IMO, he doesn't belong in the same breath as Hank Aaron.
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Old 08-08-2007, 07:56 AM
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Since 2000, when he turned 35 and at a time when sluggers traditionally see a sudden dropoff in their power numbers, Bonds has hit 311 home runs. That's better than 41 percent of his career total and 66 more than Aaron hit in a similar timeframe in his career. Aaron retired after the 1976 season.

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Aaron, 73, wasn't at AT&T Park, either. He flatly declined to follow Bonds on this quest, citing his age, the uncertainty of when the record-breaker might come and the rigors of travel. Many around baseball suspect, though, that Aaron is disturbed by the charges of performance-enhancing drug use -- considered cheating by many in and around baseball -- that surround Bonds.
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Old 08-08-2007, 09:09 AM
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I guess they didnt make flaxseed oil in Aaron's time I wonder what the record would be if Hammering Hank did take some performance enhancing drugs?? Joe Dimaggio could have possibly hit in every game instead of 56 straight(which I belive is one of the greatest records in sports and will never be broken)
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Old 08-08-2007, 09:16 AM
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Wish my trainer was locked up for distributing performance enhancing drugs "oh no officer, I didn't take any he was just in the room with me..."

Although, Mike Schmidt did say it best: "..if we had these drugs available in my time, we would have taken them.."
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Old 08-08-2007, 10:08 AM
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From baltimoresun.com, by Milton Kent:

About last night, dear: A sad morning

This is the longest, saddest day of my life as a sports fan.

Longer than the day after the Colts lost to the Jets in Super Bowl III, sadder than the days after the Orioles dropped the seventh games to the Pirates in the 1971 and 1979 World Series.

Blissfully, I was sleeping last night when Barry Bonds hit the 756th home run of his career to pass Hank Aaron for the all-time lead. The news that he connected off Washington Nationals pitcher Mike Bacsik in the fifth inning on a 3-2 pitch to right-center was the first thing that confronted me this morning as I awoke. And it stinks.

While Bonds can claim with his perpetually dour countenance that his home run mark is not tainted, it is and always will be tainted. Because we know.

We will always know that Bonds cheated the great game of baseball and by extension, all of us, by taking performance-enhancing drugs. And he's done it without a seeming moment of regret or remorse.

Bonds' achievement is the ultimate symbol of the ends justifying the means, might winning out over right, the raised middle finger in all our faces.

Worse yet, for me, as a black man who has loved baseball my entire life, what I resent most about what Bonds has done is that he has driven a wedge between African-Americans, allowing, almost encouraging some to paint Aaron as a lesser man.

During his pursuit of Babe Ruth and in the years since, Aaron endured the slings and arrows of racism and death threats in silence and with a humble grace. Bonds, meanwhile, has been surly, defiant and belittling to any who challenge him.

The truth is and always will be that Henry Louis Aaron is an icon, a legend, a hero.

Until Alex Rodriguez or whomever catches him, Barry Lamar Bonds is now, and always will be just a place-holder, a despicable name on a page. Nothing more, nothing less. And knowing that makes me feel a little better.
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Old 08-08-2007, 10:15 AM
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Rock on.
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:22 PM
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Midia comments are like the rest just opinions: Read the comments at the end of his article and see how many agreed with him.

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From baltimoresun.com, by Milton Kent:

About last night, dear: A sad morning

This is the longest, saddest day of my life as a sports fan.

Longer than the day after the Colts lost to the Jets in Super Bowl III, sadder than the days after the Orioles dropped the seventh games to the Pirates in the 1971 and 1979 World Series.

Blissfully, I was sleeping last night when Barry Bonds hit the 756th home run of his career to pass Hank Aaron for the all-time lead. The news that he connected off Washington Nationals pitcher Mike Bacsik in the fifth inning on a 3-2 pitch to right-center was the first thing that confronted me this morning as I awoke. And it stinks.

While Bonds can claim with his perpetually dour countenance that his home run mark is not tainted, it is and always will be tainted. Because we know.

We will always know that Bonds cheated the great game of baseball and by extension, all of us, by taking performance-enhancing drugs. And he's done it without a seeming moment of regret or remorse.

Bonds' achievement is the ultimate symbol of the ends justifying the means, might winning out over right, the raised middle finger in all our faces.

Worse yet, for me, as a black man who has loved baseball my entire life, what I resent most about what Bonds has done is that he has driven a wedge between African-Americans, allowing, almost encouraging some to paint Aaron as a lesser man.

During his pursuit of Babe Ruth and in the years since, Aaron endured the slings and arrows of racism and death threats in silence and with a humble grace. Bonds, meanwhile, has been surly, defiant and belittling to any who challenge him.

The truth is and always will be that Henry Louis Aaron is an icon, a legend, a hero.

Until Alex Rodriguez or whomever catches him, Barry Lamar Bonds is now, and always will be just a place-holder, a despicable name on a page. Nothing more, nothing less. And knowing that makes me feel a little better.
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:23 PM
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The only people I've talked to, and of course this is by no way a HUGE sampling, think Bonds obviously cheated. The only people I have ever heard say he was 100% legit, are my aunt/uncle in San Fran.
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:56 PM
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I think it's easy to concentrate on one individual for what may be reasons other than taking steroids. I seems to me that if Barry was well liked then the "we love you Barry masses" would be more inclined to forgive.

It's just puzzling as to why so much attention has been given to one person when baseball as a sport has been saturated with a pratice that almost everyone knew about and up until recently was legal. Now all of a sudden everybody and his mother has gotton religion but refuses to include the real perpatrator of this crime major league baseball.

So until there is proof that Mr. bonds has commited this murder (that is what we're talkin about right) then it would seem that as long as there is a reasonable doubt, reasonable people will be reasonable before sending someone to the gallows.. But then again I can't see how reasonable people could be reasonable when in fact it's those same reasonable People that keep relying on making excuses for and even voting for the greatest liars on the face of the earth. "politicians"

If Mr. Bonds did what he's accused of, he did what everyone one else was doing at the time which was not condemed and was an accepted part of the game. If Barry is now to be condemed then let's do the right thing and condem the entire sport for this great crime against humanity that the fans and Major league baseball supported. But please let's not be hypocrites and pretend that we were not sitting in the proverbial stands rooting our favorite player all the while accepting what everyone else was accepting; the general use of steriods.
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Old 08-08-2007, 03:03 PM
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Nah, Pete Rose is loved...and he can't catch a break....

Because baseball as a 'sport' isn't breaking the records set by real players, cheaters are. The "they did it so I can" excuse works up until your about 6 years old.
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