Feature for feature cheaper? Really? Please provide a side-by-side comparison to validate your statement .

Thinkpad T61 Core 2 Duo T7100 @ 1.8GHz, 1GB/80GB, 14in Screen, Thinkpad 3945ABG, CD-RW/DVD-ROM, XP Home: $880 less coupon = $792, shipped free

Select your MacBook Pro.

2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
1440 x 900 resolution
2GB memory
120GB hard drive1
8x double-layer SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics with 128MB SDRAM
Ships: Within 24 hours
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$1,999.00

or

Select your MacBook.

2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
1GB memory
80GB hard drive1
Combo drive
Ships: Within 24 hours
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$1,099.00

The 13 inch MacBook is closer in specs however it has a smaller screen and costs more!

Are you purposely ignoring the fact that the MacBook has a much faster processor?? Does your thinkpad also have Bluetooth 2.0, how about wireless "n" standard? In addition, your thinkpad weighs 6.4 pounds, while the MacBook weighs 5 pounds. Lastly, your Thinkpad has 2MB cache, and the MacBook has 4!

Compare ALL of the specs Blue!

Apple has a much more limited chosie you go from a 13 inch model to the $2,000 15 inch model. With Thinkpad you have many more options so its hard to do a dirrect compare.

Here is another spec, still costs far less.

ThinkPad T61 15 Widescreen - 1 Yr Depot Warranty
Edit 6465CTO $1,273.00 1 $1,273.00
System Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7250 (2.0GHz 800MHz 2MBL2) 1
Operating System: Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium 1
Operating System Language: Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium US English 1
Display Panel: 15.4 WSXGA+ TFT 1
System graphics: Intel GMA X3100 GM965 1
Total memory: 2 GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz SODIMM Memory (2 DIMM) 1
Keyboards: Keyboard US English 1
Pointing Device: UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad) 1
Hard Drive: 100GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm 1
Optical device: CD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo 24X/24X/24X/8X Max, Ultrabay Slim 1
Upgrade to a DVD Recordable 8x Max Dual Layer, Ultrabay Slim [add $70.00]
System expansion slots: PC Card Slot & Express Card Slot 1
Card Reader: 4 in 1 Media Card Reader 1
Wireless cards: Intel Wireless Wi-Fi Link 4965AGN (supporting Centrino Pro) 1
Bluetooth: Integrated Bluetooth PAN 1
Battery: 6 cell Li-Ion Battery 1
Upgrade to a 9 cell Li-Ion Battery [add $30.00]
Power cord : Country Pack North America 1
Language Pack: Language Pack US English 1

You two realize this is akin to a chicken/egg argument, right?

(Or a rebound/Eric5273 argument... )

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I think both Apple and Thinkpad are good computers.

The problems with the Vista operating system actually make the Apple more desirable at this time.

I do think that your choises for Apple are more limited you go from a 13 inch model for about $1,000 to a 15 inch model for about $2,000.

My 15 inch Thinkpad is not a powerful as the Apple or a top end Thinkpad however for Word and Excel it has more than enough power.

In the end you can't go wrong with ether one (as long as you avoid Vista).

Mr.Blue

How can you avoid Vista or Windows of any kind for that matter if you buy a Thinkpad? Use your head Blue...............

Nobody is saying a Think pad isn't a good computer if you wish to run Windows. The point is if you are someone who want's to get stuff done without a lot of trouble ect, Forget about Windows and give OSX a try. That's what this thread is all about. Don't have a Mac then fine you won't be interested in OSX and that's fine also.

If you want to keep from hijacking the thread with hardware discussions why not argue Operating systems. By doing so you might have a leg to stand on.

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I wouldn't say a THINKPAD is any better then any other Windows based laptop. You can load it with ram and drive space, like all others, only difference would be in the dollars.


As for Vista, I got it when it first came out (posted info on it here) it then proceeded to make my HP inoperable. Not until a few days ago when I did a reinstall with 75M (yes MB) of updates. At that point, it has worked. So as I said in another thread, Windows is 80% done when they release it on the world.

It is hard to say which is better when you don't have both. I have both, I'd say Windows if you want something very good for little money and don't mind updating constantly, viruses, loading drivers and some incompatibility. Where as with Apple you pay substantially more for a substantially less accident prone system. Not to mention Apple and the Internet act as if they were built together and drivers....what drivers?

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