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Old 11-07-2007, 01:07 PM
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Thumbs down Sorry Rudy, You Lost My Vote!

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Call it a battle for the hearts and minds of Christian conservative voters.


Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani, left, listens as Pat Robertson endorses him Wednesday.

Pat Robertson, the television evangelist and Christian Coalition founder, endorsed Republican White House hopeful Rudy Giuliani for president when the two men appeared together at the National Press Club in Washington on Wednesday.

Robertson said he decided to endorse Giuliani because he was "a proven leader who is not afraid of what lies ahead and who will cast a hopeful vision for all Americans."

"In all of the crises which confront our nation and the world, we need a leader with a bold vision who is not afraid to tackle the challenges ahead," Robertson said.

Meanwhile, former White House hopeful Sen. Sam Brownback, a Kansas Republican who is the leading voice for Christian conservatives in the Senate, will endorse Sen. John McCain for president, McCain's campaign announced Wednesday.

The Giuliani campaign hopes the Robertson endorsement will help the former New York City mayor to make inroads among evangelical Christians. Giuliani is trying to make the case with social conservative voters that despite his support for abortion and gay rights, he is an acceptable choice as the Republican presidential nominee.

It was Robertson's 1988 presidential campaign that, while unsuccessful, established evangelical voters as a dominant force within the Republican Party.

Robertson has repeatedly praised Giuliani despite their major differences on social policy. Both men say a friendship developed after a long conversation on a plane during a trip to Israel several years ago. Another thing both men have in common is that they are prostate cancer survivors.

Giuliani is the frontrunner in the national polls, but he trails in surveys in many of the early primary and caucus states, among them Iowa and South Carolina, where social conservative voters make up a major part of the Republican voting electorate.

The Robertson endorsement may also quash talk of a social conservative third party candidate if Giuliani wins the nomination.

It also put a dent in Mitt Romney's courting of the religious right. The former Massachusetts governor has made major inroads with Christian conservatives, despite the concerns by some regarding his Mormon faith.

Romney's won the endorsements of such conservative leaders as Bob Jones III and Paul Weyrich.

McCain is also hoping to capture Christian conservative support. A McCain campaign source and Republican Party sources tell CNN that Brownback's endorsement will come today when the two men appear together at a McCain campaign event in Iowa.

The Republican senator from Kansas gave up his own bid for the White House last month after lackluster fundraising and poor showings in both the national and crucial early primary and caucus state polls.

Brownback is a socially conservative senator who emphasized his opposition to abortion, gay marriage and other issues important to Christian conservatives, who make up an influential voting block within the Republican Party.

His endorsement could help McCain in Iowa. The caucuses there, which will be held on January 3, will kick off the presidential primary calendar.

McCain trails badly in the polls in Iowa to Romney. McCain opposes legalizing abortion and gay marriage, but he is not a darling of the far right. Brownback's endorsement may help McCain with such social conservative voters. E-mail to a friend

I actually liked Rudy, but if he will allow this "thing" to back you, I am sad, I thought you we're more open minded I Could have sworn you didn't share his views, at least you say you didn't, but if you allow him to back you, and all the fanatics to become your base, I'm skepical you won't change for the votes or opinions on issues, Now I'm going to hope you don't allow him to endorse you because I really did respect you and thought for a republican you shared alot of my ideals, but I simply cannot except you will or would stand side by side to this monster
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:40 PM
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blondboinsd,

Sorry, there is no way that I can believe that Rudy has lost your vote

You would have voted for him???
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Sorry, there is no way that I can believe that Rudy has lost your vote

You would have voted for him???
I'm still out, I don't really like any of the Democratic People, I can't stand Obama, Hillary is decent but not steller, Rudy did have a decent track record of getting things done, Red and Blue aside, I vote for people for align with my social beliefs (everyone here knows them) and Will get shit done

Rudy was a decent front runner until this BS, now to me he is simply a total sell-out to the radical hypocritical christian right-wing front *throws up*
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I'm still out, I don't really like any of the Democratic People, I can't stand Obama, Hillary is decent but not steller, Rudy did have a decent track record of getting things done, Red and Blue aside, I vote for people for align with my social beliefs (everyone here knows them) and Will get shit done

Rudy was a decent front runner until this BS, now to me he is simply a total sell-out to the radical hypocritical christian right-wing front *throws up*

So don't vote for him. It's very simple.
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now to me he is simply a total sell-out to the radical hypocritical christian right-wing front
all candidates seem to end up pandering to the red neck vote at some point
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News Flash...It is called an endorsement, meaning Pat Robertson came out with his decision on who he will be supporting for President. This does not mean Rudy supports or endorses Pat Robertson.

Now you might say he did not need to be present at a press conference if he wanted to distance himself from Pat and his radical views and that would be a legitimate beef. That said, you also need to keep in mind that 30% of the Republican party is made up of Conservative Christians and any realistic chance of victory on the Republican ticket will need support from this demographic.

Honestly, endorsements don't carry much weight with me. I'd rather look at a persons actions and accomplishments to make a decision. That is why I ignore all the voter pamphlets on election day.

Play to win Rudy!
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I'm still out, I don't really like any of the Democratic People, I can't stand Obama, Hillary is decent but not steller, Rudy did have a decent track record of getting things done, Red and Blue aside, I vote for people for align with my social beliefs (everyone here knows them) and Will get shit done

Rudy was a decent front runner until this BS, now to me he is simply a total sell-out to the radical hypocritical christian right-wing front *throws up*
A little emotional, aren't we? So what if Rudy has the backing of the 700 club. Pat Robertson is so crazy and flippant that other christians tune him out.
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Rudy was a decent front runner until this BS, now to me he is simply a total sell-out to the radical hypocritical Christian right-wing front *throws up*
Don't you find it odd that Pat Robertson supports someone who is pro-choice and openly has friends who are gay? I was quite shocked when this news came out only because there are so many other Republicans on the ticket who are more in line with his group.

I thought for a moment this might be a ploy to actually sabotage his lead in the polls. By coming out for Rudy he loses support of the moderate Republicans knowing the Far Right will still support one of the true Christian Conservative candidates.

Then again, I'm not much into conspiracy theories.

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So are you saying Rudy topped the list for you on this survey?

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Answer 11 quick questions and out pops your candidate.

Looks like Rudy is my candidate (shocking not)

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Old 11-07-2007, 05:27 PM
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At least with Rudy if he says "this is what I stand for and this is what I will do" you can be sure that that is what he'll do. Unlike his Eggo opponents....

carry on.
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