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Old 04-07-2008, 02:23 PM
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Question Boycott Beijing Olympics?

I wonder? Will all of this change anything???

Clinton urges Bush to boycott Beijing Olympics.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton urged President George W. Bush on Monday to boycott the Beijing Olympics opening ceremonies this summer unless China improves human rights.

Clinton, in a statement, cited violent clashes in Tibet and the lack of pressure by China on Sudan to stop "the genocide in Darfur."

"At this time, and in light of recent events, I believe President Bush should not plan on attending the opening ceremonies in Beijing, absent major changes by the Chinese government," the New York senator said.
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:41 PM
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Yeah boycott a country that has billions invested in your economy at the time when your economy is in the tank. Just the kind of 'emotional' reaction a leader can't have.
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:51 PM
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Olympic boycotts do not work!

It was the US supplied, Al-Queda back, Mujhideen that got the Soviets out of Afganistan. Not the US lead boycott of the 1980 Moscow games....

The days of the Olympics being a venue of great politcal consequence are over....
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:55 PM
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Olympic boycotts do not work!

It was the US supplied, Al-Queda back, Mujhideen that got the Soviets out of Afganistan. Not the US lead boycott of the 1980 Moscow games....

The days of the Olympics being a venue of great politcal consequence are over....

The best "non sport" accomplishment the Olympics have ever achieved was kudos for the Civil Rights movement and a smack down of CCCP boosting cold war egos in the States. In Munich it simply showed that terrorists knew no bounds.
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The best "non sport" accomplishment the Olympics have ever achieved was kudos for the Civil Rights movement and a smack down of CCCP boosting cold war egos in the States. In Munich it simply showed that terrorists knew no bounds.
I thought Jesse Owens winning 4 gold medals in Nazi Germany had way more significance than the 1980 boycott. Or any other event. To me, that was the most significant political statement in an Olympics on many levels.

Interesting both the US and Germany had their own versions of second class citizens then. And both countries were heading in different directions on that issues. One creeping, ever so slowly, but towards intergration. While the other raced quickly in the other direction. At least Jesse Owens was representing the US. Germany didn't even have one Jew representing Germany in that Olympics.

HBO Sports had a great documentary on this.
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I thought Jesse Owens winning 4 gold medals in Nazi Germany had way more significance than the 1980 boycott.
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Old 04-07-2008, 05:12 PM
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I thought Jesse Owens winning 4 gold medals in Nazi Germany had way more significance than the 1980 boycott. Or any other event. To me, that was the most significant political statement in an Olympics on many levels.

Interesting both the US and Germany had their own versions of second class citizens then. And both countries were heading in different directions on that issues. One creeping, ever so slowly, but towards intergration. While the other raced quickly in the other direction. At least Jesse Owens was representing the US. Germany didn't even have one Jew representing Germany in that Olympics.

HBO Sports had a great documentary on this.

Again, no political influence so to "ban" a games is just silly.


Joe Lewis vs Max Baer in '35 was far more symbolic then that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kzpECJjefI
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Again, no political influence so to "ban" a games is just silly.


Joe Lewis vs Max Baer in '35 was far more symbolic then that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kzpECJjefI
I agree, banning serves no purpose.

However, it should be noted that there was some political pressure on Germany before those Olympics. The threat of removing the Olympics from Germany did force them to include some Jews in the selection process...

They used Margret Lambert as a symbol of a fair Germany. She was cut from the high jump team weeks before the opening ceremony. Even though she was the best in the nation and could have medaled. Check out, HBOs Hitler's Pawn

There was so much at stake in that Olympics. So coupled with that, to have the grandson of a slave, a skeleton from America's past, and win 4 gold in front of Hitler and the Nazis, in their backyard, at their showcase Olympics??

That's what I call significant.
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Jeez I thought this thread was about whether to Boycott Beijing Olympics? and not about America, Germany and history.

I say boycott the games.
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No. Too many U.S. corportions are heavily invested in, and too many eyes will be watching, the Beijing Olympics. Bush does not have the cojones to upset that. Plus, the competitions themself will be a battle of the superpowers.

In short, it is all about the money.
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