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View Poll Results: Who going to win
Lakers 19 40.43%
Celtics 19 40.43%
Most Valuable Player 1 2.13%
I don't care 8 17.02%
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Old 06-02-2008, 09:44 PM
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What does Kobe's rape accusation and adultery have to do with the outcome of the game?
I have talked to many women who would encourage her husband to have an affair as long as she get a $3-mil diamond ring each time.
Plus why would any young man work their ass off to make it to NBA unless there are ladies who would through themselves during the season?
Give me a break.

That is actually a valid point.

As far as the b!tch comment goes, that was directed at the way Kobe threw Shaq under the bus when they were supposed to be friends. I am not judging him for what he did, but I was judging him by the way he handled the Shaq situation. He could have been a man and just admitted his wrong doings without bringing other people into the situation who had nothing to do with it.
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Sun devils are gonna sweep,,,A&M just doesn't have the offense
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Ok I can see this has gotten off track so let me postulate a bit about this Kobe thing. I don’t know Kobe or Shaq or Phil or any of them. Having concluded that fact I find it hard to judge any of them. Perhaps some of the folks who ostracized him know him personally and have a basis for their opinion. If that’s the case then so be it. For me I will based my opinion on some of the facts I have gathered from the same sources others have relied on. Facts that some folks have chosen to ignore.

Anyone who knows Kobe’s history knows that Kobe Bryant grew up with the proverbial silver spoon in his mouth. His dad was a pro basketball player, so Kobe didn't come from the same low income background that a ton of basketball players are expected to come from.

So I find it ironic that the same populace that hates on NBA players for supposedly embracing thug culture hates the one player that is the antithesis of that? That's what I call a no win situation.

Everyone also knows that shaq and the veterans on the Lakers didn't like Kobe because he didn't walk the traditional line of bowing down to his veteran peers. From the jump, Kobe was all about achieving his goal of becoming the best player in the history of the game. He came in and actually worked hard 24-7, and instead of going out at night locked himself in his hotel room and watched game film all night. His veteran counterparts didn't take to this very well, and from the jump pushed him away from their tight inner circle and made Kobe an outsider. In his early years, the only players that actually showed him guidance were Byron Scott and Eddie Jones. The rest of the guys basically ostracized him and talked poorly about him in the media. Shaq and Phil Jackson might be the most culpable for Kobe Bryant's bad P.R. on this matter. Because of Shaq and Phil, people blame the break up of the Lakers on Kobe, when Kobe is just a very small player in the entire thing.

As far as throwing Shaq under the bus? Shaq did that to himself. Shaq didn’t like to train
And that was evident from his physical condition and his inability to make free throws.

Kobe being Kobe who actually worked hard 24-7 must have found this difficult to accept and it finally came to a head to some extent. But I doubt seriously that caused the demise of the team. Certainly it had a effect but Shaq could have dealt with that issue head on by getting in shape. Not too much to ask in my view.

But it’s the same ole story and it’s a story that people like to preach. Don’t be an individual, don’t be different, be a pasty cutout doll that fits in anywhere on the page that everyone else has designed. The page that meets everyone’s approval. Personally it’s a sermon I’m tired of hearing. Like I said I don’t know the man and until I do I’m going to watch Kobe Bryant play the game of basketball and enjoy every minute of it.

Now back on topic
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Whoever this is isn't part of this poll.
But I'm guessing you know that Huh.........

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Sun devils are gonna sweep,,,A&M just doesn't have the offense
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:09 AM
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Ok I can see this has gotten off track so let me postulate a bit about this Kobe thing. I don’t know Kobe or Shaq or Phil or any of them. Having concluded that fact I find it hard to judge any of them. Perhaps some of the folks who ostracized him know him personally and have a basis for their opinion. If that’s the case then so be it. For me I will based my opinion on some of the facts I have gathered from the same sources others have relied on. Facts that some folks have chosen to ignore.

Anyone who knows Kobe’s history knows that Kobe Bryant grew up with the proverbial silver spoon in his mouth. His dad was a pro basketball player, so Kobe didn't come from the same low income background that a ton of basketball players are expected to come from.

So I find it ironic that the same populace that hates on NBA players for supposedly embracing thug culture hates the one player that is the antithesis of that? That's what I call a no win situation.

Everyone also knows that shaq and the veterans on the Lakers didn't like Kobe because he didn't walk the traditional line of bowing down to his veteran peers. From the jump, Kobe was all about achieving his goal of becoming the best player in the history of the game. He came in and actually worked hard 24-7, and instead of going out at night locked himself in his hotel room and watched game film all night. His veteran counterparts didn't take to this very well, and from the jump pushed him away from their tight inner circle and made Kobe an outsider. In his early years, the only players that actually showed him guidance were Byron Scott and Eddie Jones. The rest of the guys basically ostracized him and talked poorly about him in the media. Shaq and Phil Jackson might be the most culpable for Kobe Bryant's bad P.R. on this matter. Because of Shaq and Phil, people blame the break up of the Lakers on Kobe, when Kobe is just a very small player in the entire thing.

As far as throwing Shaq under the bus? Shaq did that to himself. Shaq didn’t like to train
And that was evident from his physical condition and his inability to make free throws.

Kobe being Kobe who actually worked hard 24-7 must have found this difficult to accept and it finally came to a head to some extent. But I doubt seriously that caused the demise of the team. Certainly it had a effect but Shaq could have dealt with that issue head on by getting in shape. Not too much to ask in my view.

But it’s the same ole story and it’s a story that people like to preach. Don’t be an individual, don’t be different, be a pasty cutout doll that fits in anywhere on the page that everyone else has designed. The page that meets everyone’s approval. Personally it’s a sermon I’m tired of hearing. Like I said I don’t know the man and until I do I’m going to watch Kobe Bryant play the game of basketball and enjoy every minute of it.

Now back on topic
Real quick and then I will let this die, I applaud Kobe for going against the grain living his life how he wants to. I know he is a book worm and a recluse to some extent. So be it, whatever. I was referring to how Kobe was in trouble for extra-marital affairs and then while the heat was on basically said "well Shaq was doing this and that". It was like the little kid who gets caught doing somehting he shouldn't and then tells on his sibling for somehting they did to try to get out of some heat. That was very b!tch in my book.
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Old 06-05-2008, 03:24 AM
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Getting close to the first game and the poll is dead even.
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Old 06-05-2008, 08:46 PM
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And so it begins. I'm excited
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And so it begins. I'm excited
So far so good.
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Old 06-06-2008, 01:03 AM
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Yep the Lakers didn't show up tonight
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Old 06-06-2008, 01:07 AM
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Highlights of the game:
Paul Pierce giving us the Willis Reed moment of the series;
Ray Allen hitting his shots;
Paul Pierce fade-a-way jumpshot, falling out of bounds, draws the foul and banks it in for three, hits the extra point for a four point play;
KG beasting on Pau Gasol;
Kobe held to 24 points.
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