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06-16-2008, 08:00 AM
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WTF, Obama now wants the taxpayer to fund retirement??
Yuppers. He wants matching on retirement plans for those making $75,000 or less. WTF? He wants to take citizen tax money to fund a retirement program.....OK Obama backers, defend that one.
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06-16-2008, 09:08 AM
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So let me get this straight, I'm supposed to work my ass off to fun Welfare and unemployment so that some people can get a free ride in their productive years, and now I'm supposed to work my ass off even harder so that the "unfortunate" can live a comfortable retirement?
hmmmm, let me think about that for a second, no.
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06-16-2008, 09:09 AM
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So now they want to fund a retirement program on top of Social Security (which I will likely never get back what I have put into it
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06-16-2008, 09:25 AM
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06-16-2008, 10:53 AM
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Not an Obama defender but Didn't it say "Employees, can opt out"?
Also the articles said "Obama's plan is the latest in a series of ideas to attack this problem. In 1999, the Clinton administration proposed offering a federally-funded match to workers without 401(k)s or IRAs. Seven years later, in an unusual alliance of experts with differing perspectives, David John of the Heritage Foundation and Mark Irwy, formerly of the Brookings Institution, floated the idea of an automatic IRA." So this is not a new idea by ant means.
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06-16-2008, 01:57 PM
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I've never seen someone so bent on spending on social welfare in my time on this planet. And the fact that so many blindly follow because they want to 'be a part of history' scares me.
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