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Old 06-30-2008, 05:37 AM
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I know what you meant. I believe there are a lot of "US citizens" who don't want to be included in the conversation as if "WE" support the issues one way or the other.

So, they don't want to be in a conversation discussing the possibilities and rationality of their nation killing others.... Sounds like a "if you ignore it, it will all go away" line of thinking.


Oh, and if the white house did leak this Iran crap, here is why:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,373422,00.html

Threats like that help the administration strengthen its case for new energy assets within the US and the 'need' to accelerate development efforts.
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Old 06-30-2008, 05:51 AM
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I believe we can have an intelligent conversation and talk about it without ignoring it. But really there are many folks who have no desire to be included by saying we as if we belong to the decision making of this country.

It's like saying "WE went into Iraq (speaking about US citizens) "WE" didn't do anything. The Bush admin made that choice and many people have no desire to be included in the process.

The same issue comes up with Iran. Most Iranian people have no desire to be identified with their govt. But people keep saying Iran this and Iran that when in fact it's the Govt of Iran that keeps up this garbage.

Yeah i know it may be semantics but it's an important distinction that i honestly believe needs to be made.

Lets make sure we place the blame where it belongs. Not on the citizens of this country but on the idiots who make decisions without due regard for the people they serve.

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So, they don't want to be in a conversation discussing the possibilities and rationality of their nation killing others.... Sounds like a "if you ignore it, it will all go away" line of thinking.
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Old 06-30-2008, 07:54 AM
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something WILL happen before Bush leaves office, he has nothing to lose. Also Israel will most likely be involved because lately they have been doing long test flights and have been approved by countries bordering iran for landing.
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Old 06-30-2008, 08:52 AM
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Please please please don't apply the compulsory "WE" regarding this issue. This is a Bush Man choice and i would be willing to bet few people support this distorted thinking of his.
The ones that do support this "distorted" thinking of his are the military who are the ones going in harms way. It's funny how those who don't serve their country are the ones who think they can speak for those that do. We are the ones volunteering to go back again and again because WE, (not the ones who whine and have never been there) see the value in what is being accomplished there. Because we've seen firsthand what these radicals can do, every one of them we can kill no matter where it is is a great thing indeed. How soon so many of you have forgotten 9/11. If Obama, the pacifist who thinks we can just talk to these animals gets in office, watch more 9/11's happen again. Ask yourself this; Who do you think the terrorists would like to see in office???
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