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You've got to read this.....
This e mail came my way via a very connected, Insurance oriented friend, I believe this to be a legitimate correspondence. With respect to privacy, I pulled the To / From (Officials in MS and TX) out of the email (don't want a lawsuit)
• On Friday night, August 26, 2005 before the Hurricane hit, Max Mayfield of the National Hurricane Center took the unprecedented action of calling Mayor Nagin of New Orleans and Louisiana Governor Blanco personally to plead with them to begin MANDATORY evacuation of New Orleans and they said they’d take it under consideration. This was after the NOAA buoy 240 miles south had recorded 68’ waves before it was destroyed. > • President Bush spent Friday afternoon and evening in meetings with his advisors and administrators drafting all of the paperwork required for a state to request federal assistance (and not be in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act or having to enact the Insurgency Act). > • Just before midnight Friday evening the President called Governor Blanco and pleaded with her to sign the request papers so the federal government and the military could legally begin mobilization and call up. He was told that they didn’t think it necessary for the federal government to be involved yet. > • After the President’s final call to the governor she held meetings with her staff to discuss the political ramifications of bringing federal forces. It was decided that if they allowed federal assistance it would make it look as if they had failed so it was agreed upon that the feds would not be invited in. > • Saturday, August 27, before the Hurricane hit, the President again called Blanco and Nagin requesting they please sign the papers requesting federal assistance, that they declare the state an emergency area, and begin mandatory evacuation. > • After a personal plea from the President, Mayor Nagin agreed to order an evacuation, but it would not be a full mandatory evacuation, and the governor still refused to sign the papers requesting and authorizing federal action. In frustration the President declared the area a national disaster area before the state of Louisiana did so he could legally begin some advanced preparations. > • Rumor has it that the President’s legal advisers were looking into the ramifications of using the insurgency act to bypass the Constitutional requirement that a state request federal aid before the federal government can move into state with troops - but that had not been done since 1906 and the Constitutionality of it was called into question to use before the disaster. > • Throw in that over half the federal aid of the past decade to New Orleans for levee construction, maintenance, and repair was diverted to fund a marina and support the gambling ships. Toss in the investigation that will look into why the emergency preparedness plan submitted to the federal government for funding and published on the city’s website was never implemented and in fact may have been bogus for the purpose of gaining additional federal funding. As we now learn that the organizations identified in the plan were never contacted or coordinating into any planning, though the document implies that they were. > • The suffering people of New Orleans need to be asking some hard questions as do we all, but they better start with why Governor Blanco refused to even sign the multi-state mutual aid pack activation documents until Wednesday, August 31, which further delayed the legal deployment of National Guard from adjoining states. Or maybe ask why Mayor Nagin keeps harping that the President should have commandeered 500 Greyhound busses to help him when according to his own emergency plan and documents he claimed to have over 500 busses at his disposal • to use between the local school busses and the city transportation busses - but he never raised a finger to prepare them or activate them. • > • This is a sad time for all of us to see that a major city has all but been destroyed and thousands of people have died with hundreds of thousands more suffering, but it’s certainly not a time for people to be pointing fingers and trying to find a bigger dog to blame for local corruption and incompetence. Pray to God for the survivors that they can start their lives anew as fast as possible and we learn from all the mistakes to avoid them in the future. >> > Thanks, > Brenda If this is correct, the Govenor of LA has alot of answering to do to the people who got screwed........ What do you think, legit or not..........?? |
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I have been blaming her from the word go...
She locked up and it cost people thier lives....
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They ALL failed: the mayor, the governor, and the federal government. They ALL share in the blame. The mayor failed for not having a proper evacuation plan in place. The governor failed for not asking for the aid sooner. The feds failed for not saying "F*%@K the Posse Comitatus Act -- these are incompetent people, and we're sending FEMA in right now and stage them outside the city." Absolutely no one is free of fault here...
There is no way, NO WAY that pictures of dead people floating around in sewage water should be coming from this country. That is what you see in third-world, war-ravaged countries, NOT in America. This simply should not happen here. Juan
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For every great thing this country has achieved in its history, it seems like some horrible thing like this and Iraq seems like it would have happend from 2000-2008. I guarantee you that this will be remembered as one of the worst 8 years of American history in hindsight, many years from now.
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I'll try to leave the politics out of this post because I like it here.
A very close friend of mine has a sister who is world famous photo journalist. You've seen lots of her stuff in Time, Newsweek, et al. She called 2 days ago after getting back from NoLa, Houston and Arkansas. Here is a recap of a small part of her conversation. She arrived in NoLa on Wednesday (the day after the levy breaks). There were lots of trucks, people, soldiers, etc... on the outskirts of town. Very few were in town. No one was in control, local, state or federal. The Fema officials spent 3 days after she arrived not focusing on helping people or organizing the rescue efforts and different agencies. Rather, they spent their time preventing the media from doing its job and preventing people like her from taking pictures of dead people floating the water. She said it was like a police state similar to Iraq and Somalia (places she has been countless times). And then, on Saturday, someone said go, and the entire operation changed. Perhaps this had something to do with the lawsuit filed by CNN on Friday to grant media access to do and cover what they wanted to. (CNN won the suit BTW and an injunction was granted.) Or maybe the lawsuit had nothing to do with it. Regardless, how many people were there at the Convention Center? 25,000... 50,000? More? She said they cleared the place out in 5 hours. Yes, 5 hours. The military flew in scores of Chinook helicoptors, people were flown out on government Jets--you name it, they used it (including helos that had been flown in from our bases in Asia). She said it was among the most amazing things she has ever seen, seeing all of the helos in the sky. She also said it makes her more angry to see how fast the place could be cleared and how quickly people were rescued when the entire focus of the government was on saving lives, but it took 5 days for the focus to get there. Take that for what it is worth, but it is true. It's a damn shame the 'Go' order wasn't given sooner (my editorializing).
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Has anyone stopped to think about what a severe NATURAL DISASTER this is? Even with an evacuation plan in place it would be nearly impossible to get everyone out of the city. Most people knew what was coming, so they had a choice. For the people that didn't know or have the means, imagine the logistics of contacting and locating these thousands and thousands of people who likely do not even have much of a clue or care about the looming disaster? They have likely been through many hurricanes and did not give a damn about Katrina until it got there. I mean there were people boozing it up in the bars like it was a short vacation before the hurricane hit. I seriously doubt that those barflies were the only people doubting the power of Katrina before it hit. How can you expect a disaster this big to hit and have everyone accounted for in a matter of two days? Logistics, logistics, logistics.
So then Katrina hits and everyone is stranded in the Big Easy. Now you've got to organize a rescue team to save 100,000+ people who can only be evacuated by air, boat, or vehicles that can make it through a couple of feet of water without stalling. I imagine it took time to organize a rescue of this magnitude considering alot of the equipment and people capable of handling these situations are in Iraq. Hindsight is 20/20, and I would like to believe that everyone in charge wanted those people to be rescued as much as I did, but it was a task too monumentous to be done in 10 hours. Ok, off the soapbox now. Flame away; if my opinion is offbase I want to know. Last edited by superH; 10-21-2005 at 02:46 PM. |
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Very well put, SuperH. The thousands of idiots who could have left but thumbed their noses at the storm deserved to get swamped. What part of 175 MPH did they not understand?
I feel sorry for the ones who COULD NOT leave, e.g. elderly, hospitalized, or the poor with no transportation (<--- Hey Mayor: How about a couple hundred buses???). The day prior to impact I heard the Mayor say that the city will probably be under several feet of water for weeks. Then moments later he said he opened the Superdome for the folks who could not leave. Great! Underwater city, 30K people in the Superdome and no food or water to be had. What a leader... Quote:
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A well informed friend of mine read, I think in the Wall Street Journal, that Governor Blanco was caught thinking a mic was off during a press conference and was heard telling an aide that she screwed up and should have called for federal aid sooner. That came out and now she's kissing President Bush's rear end. (Did you hear her speech where she lavished praise on him?) She was quick to throw blame at the feds but when she was busted she had to start back peddling and mending fences.
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