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Old 10-28-2008, 05:53 PM
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Find an example not 3 decades old
Ok, sure thing.

Would it be ok if Iran was to bomb Pakistan and/or Afghanistan to kill leaders of Jundallah?

(BTW, this is another group receiving financial support from our government)


Or how about if Iran was to bomb inside Iraq to kill leaders of Mujahideen-e-Khalq? And if Iraqi civilians were killed in the attack? Or what if Americans who happened to be in Iraq were killed in the bombing? Would that be ok?
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Old 10-28-2008, 05:55 PM
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If they have the cojones, go for it. You act as if they don't do it because of a moral compass.

I'm sorry but defense is not something you can sit on the side line and wait to participate in. Sure is nice posting on this forum knowing that tomorrow your street isn't going to be leveled...isn't it? How do you think you got that security? Out of the kindness of hearts?

BTW, many..many countries and factions receive funding from the US. Not just "terrorists" and "bad guys".
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Sure is nice posting on this forum knowing that tomorrow your street isn't going to be leveled...isn't it?
A whole bunch of streets about 15 miles from my home were leveled not to long ago. Who knows what else will happen in the future...


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How do you think you got that security? Out of the kindness of hearts?
What security? You would be safer living in any of the northern European countries. When was the last terrorist attack in Sweden? Or in Finland? Or Denmark? Or the Netherlands? How did they get so secure? Answer: by being nice to the rest of the world.

The world is not a third grade playground. You get attacked because someone hates you, not because someone is jealous of you. Nobody likes a bully.
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The CIA guys who were recruiting these islamic extremists to come to Afghanistan and join the Mujahadeen/Al-Queda to fight against the Russians back in the late 1970s -- I'd say they would agree with you. Job well done!
You gonna go all the way back in time to point out all the Mishaps in the history of man too? I never said we were perfect...Jesus, if you don't like it here in America, move somewhere else and rant to everyone there...We won't miss you..
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I never said we were perfect....
No, you didn't. You said we shouldn't worry about what happens in 20 years. And I have to say, most of our politicians over the last half-century have certainly followed that advise.


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if you don't like it here in America, move somewhere else and rant to everyone there...We won't miss you..
If Obama becomes president, and you wish to complain about something he has done, I hope you follow your own advise.
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If they have the cojones, go for it. You act as if they don't do it because of a moral compass.

I'm sorry but defense is not something you can sit on the side line and wait to participate in. Sure is nice posting on this forum knowing that tomorrow your street isn't going to be leveled...isn't it? How do you think you got that security? Out of the kindness of hearts?

BTW, many..many countries and factions receive funding from the US. Not just "terrorists" and "bad guys".
we got that a long time ago m8...not just cuz we took out a couple of cave dwelling ***** ...

Once we use power we lose authority..... now everyone wants to arm up
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What security? You would be safer living in any of the northern European countries. When was the last terrorist attack in Sweden? Or in Finland? Or Denmark? Or the Netherlands? How did they get so secure? Answer: by being nice to the rest of the world.
If thats how you feel ...Then go there...and stay there...We won't miss you buddy...Leave the American flag on your way though...thats ours...
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we got that a long time ago m8...not just cuz we took out a couple of cave dwelling ***** ...

Once we use power we lose authority..... now everyone wants to arm up

And how did we get that..more importantly..how does the US keep that? Exactly.
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If thats how you feel ...Then go there...and stay there...We won't miss you buddy...Leave the American flag on your way though...thats ours...


Neh..he owns his own biz here..he isn't leaving that behind
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And how did we get that..more importantly..how does the US keep that? Exactly.
We helped & we got involved only when we needed to...as Eric said nobody likes a bully...

I love my country and maybe that is why I criticize these things so much...because I not only want it to be the best...but also be seen as the best...and ATM we are just a big bully...Lead by example...not arm countries up because they fear that we might invade them next...
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