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Old 09-27-2005, 01:15 PM
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TOUGH CALL but man I sure do miss the 'old Canon vs. Nikon Debate.

For me - I started off with Nikon film and have plenty of great Nikon glass to pass around.

For now though, the 80-400mm and the 12-24mm and the D70 is my favorite combo. Haven't shot film in the longest time.

If I was starting fresh though and did not own any camera lense, I would probably jump on the Canon bandwagon myself.
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Is $1399 a good price for Canon 20D? Includes lens, battery and charger.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product..._114-_-Canon_E
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Is $1399 a good price for Canon 20D? Includes lens, battery and charger.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product..._114-_-Canon_E
check dell, newegg.com, onecall.com, adorama.com, and bhphotovideo.com, whichever of those places has the lowest price (costco is ok too), just buy from there.

I'm not a big fan of the kit lens, you might want to start out with something else, like a 50mm or 28-135IS.
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Also, you might want to consider getting the battery grip. For some people it makes the camera easier to hold, and it allows for 2 batteries instead of 1.
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you're suggesting that Canon lenses are a derivative of Nikon lenses and that Canon sources it's glass from Nikon?

I've been into photography for over 20 years and that's the first i've ever heard of that.

Do you have any links to back this up?
I’m not saying the lenses are a derivative, I’m saying that Canon buys glass from Nikon to use in their lenses. Canon is a customer of Nikon, what do you possibly think Canon would buy from Nikon? Nikon does have some of the best glass around and do you think Canon really cares who makes it?

I’ll see if I can find the report I saw Canon mentioned.
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I’m not saying the lenses are a derivative, I’m saying that Canon buys glass from Nikon to use in their lenses. Canon is a customer of Nikon, what do you possibly think Canon would buy from Nikon? Nikon does have some of the best glass around and do you think Canon really cares who makes it?

I’ll see if I can find the report I saw Canon mentioned.
with all due respect, your claims are like saying gm buys engines from ford. which has about the same probability as canon buying glass from nikon. I hope you can provide links because, i think you're very very very wrong. and if you're not wrong, well, i'll be very very very surprised
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My understanding was that Canon purchased ED glass from Nikon for manufacturing lenses, I have seen it referenced more than once, but I don't have the article either. Maybe it is a myth, maybe not.

I am not sure what the big deal is if it is true, since we are talking about glass here, not actual camera lenses. It is very common in telescopes as well, with Nikon producing some of their own scopes, and other manufacturers purchasing Nikon glass for their products. Nikon just happen to have the capability to make some very good glass for optics. It is used in eyewear, binoculars, etc. It is a different line of business than their camera business.

As for GM and Ford, well that is pretty common too. I have driven Ford Class 8 trucks with Detroit Diesel power (before Penske owned DD). GM Allison transmissions are everywhere. Components are commonly sold between manufacturers, although I think that they would likely prefer not to talk about it too much. Hertz will gladly rent you a GM vehicle, or just about any other brand, despite their ownership (OK, that one is changing).

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Canon used to use Nikkor lenses on their bodies back in the 1930's and 40's, long before they were the kind of global competitors they are today. Perhaps that is what Lanbrown was reading about.
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Canon used to use Nikkor lenses on their bodies back in the 1930's and 40's, long before they were the kind of global competitors they are today. Perhaps that is what Lanbrown was reading about.
could be... i have no clue...

so let's recap:

Nikon vs. Canon
Mac vs. PC
Ipod vs. anythingbutanipod


we sure do know how to take sides on here LOL!

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