Sorry - I have to disagree here. There are NO laws against "drinking and driving". There are laws against "driving intoxicated", where "intoxicated" is a legal definition. I don't see an issue with understanding how the measurement tools work, and how to ensure you get an accurate test. I also don't see an issue with making sure that people who AREN'T intoxicated (legally) understand that the police who may stop them are NOT interested in the accuracy of the test, but rather in an arrest.

well said brother. amen

The original post said, and I quote, "The real argument for us not being over the limit, is not losing your license."

That is an indefensible position. The real argument is so that you don't kill somebody. The original post included the usual nonsense about how "we are all better than the average driver", because apparently posting on a car forum makes people better drivers. That is ridiculous. Many people who are in accidents didn't believe they were intoxicated. Now we get to read a post that reinforces that fallacy, by convincing them they should take a chance because here is a way to beat the system. Bullshit. I just hope they only kill themselves, that would be Darwinian selection at work. The problem is that they take innocents with them.

Let's say that one person gets saved from a borderline DUI by this 'information'. Meanwhile, one child gets killed by someone who read this and thought this meant he could get away with it. Still think this post is something to be proud of?

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And i have to disagree as well.

There are laws against "drinking and driving". It's called DUI "driving under the influence. Then there is also DWI "driving while Intoxicated. Either way you can go to Jail.

Police who stop them are ARE interested in the accuracy of the test because that test is admitted in a court of law. And yes if your impaired by alcohol they are interested in an arrest before a driver kills someone.

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I found a way to blow 0.00% consistently on the breathalyzer test. Works every time - guaranteed!

Step 1: Don't drink any alcoholic beverages before you drive drive.
Step 2: Breathe any way you like.
Step 3: Blow any way you like.
Step 4: Thank the officer for doing a great job.
Step 5: Go home safely.

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Yes, and "driving under the influence" requires EITHER a BAC at a certain level OR the demonstration of impaired driving. It is TOTALLY legal to have a beer and then drive home, and almost surely just as safe as some dude talking on his phone or tuning his radio. While I hate the thought of people driving truly impaired, this fascistic reaction against responsible drivers who have a drink and are well under the level of impairment is silly.

I agree that the statement about BMW drivers being better drivers and able to handle their alcohol is silly, but I for one appreciate understanding how the process works.

Please consider the following..

I don't want to preach to people whether they should or shouldn't drink and drive. I don't want to get killed by a driver who has misjudged how impaired they are either. Think about this for second... because I bought this unit, I'm drinking less. I'm much more aware of it. What I didn't mention was my own target, based on what I learned. I'm now shooting to not go over .05. Think about how important that is. As it turns out, that's about a beer and a half for me. You cannot convince me to not have a drink with my friends. You won't have any luck with that, any more than I would to go out and start hitting my friends with that message. I wouldn't get any where with that, except to start losing friends.

Now, what has happened is really interesting. Now, all of a sudden, I've got several friends that are going to buy breathalyzers. This post might cause more folks to buy one. Can you not see how this helps? Do you really think that the opposite will happen... that some of the readers will start drinking more. More? It hardly takes any now to be illegal. How could they drink more?

If you check a few websites you will start to see that law enforcement endorses people buying one of these. I would suggest to you that they understand it is better to have folks who have made the decision to have a beer with friends, at least have one of these units in their car.

And by the way... yes.. my driving skills are 4 times better than the average cell phone talking soccer dad WITH kids in his car!. At .05 I am far, far, far, safer than that guy. Just ask my buddy at work who was just hit by one of them and totaled his car.

Wrong analogy. Talking on the phone and texting is illegal here in California.

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Well said JCL...Most people that will agree with this thread dont have children or havent experienced a family member or someone close to them having been killed by some moron (close to the limit or not) who got behind the wheel after having alcohol. Just be smart and dont drink and drive -- regardless if you are coming down from a buzz or just taking the edge off after a long day. I'd hate to see another friend of mine killed.
That'll end my soapbox presentation...