Sorry - I have to disagree here. There are NO laws against "drinking and driving". There are laws against "driving intoxicated", where "intoxicated" is a legal definition. I don't see an issue with understanding how the measurement tools work, and how to ensure you get an accurate test. I also don't see an issue with making sure that people who AREN'T intoxicated (legally) understand that the police who may stop them are NOT interested in the accuracy of the test, but rather in an arrest.

well said brother. amen

The original post said, and I quote, "The real argument for us not being over the limit, is not losing your license."

That is an indefensible position. The real argument is so that you don't kill somebody. The original post included the usual nonsense about how "we are all better than the average driver", because apparently posting on a car forum makes people better drivers. That is ridiculous. Many people who are in accidents didn't believe they were intoxicated. Now we get to read a post that reinforces that fallacy, by convincing them they should take a chance because here is a way to beat the system. Bullshit. I just hope they only kill themselves, that would be Darwinian selection at work. The problem is that they take innocents with them.

Let's say that one person gets saved from a borderline DUI by this 'information'. Meanwhile, one child gets killed by someone who read this and thought this meant he could get away with it. Still think this post is something to be proud of?

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Well said JCL...Most people that will agree with this thread dont have children or havent experienced a family member or someone close to them having been killed by some moron (close to the limit or not) who got behind the wheel after having alcohol. Just be smart and dont drink and drive -- regardless if you are coming down from a buzz or just taking the edge off after a long day. I'd hate to see another friend of mine killed.
That'll end my soapbox presentation...

And i have to disagree as well.

There are laws against "drinking and driving". It's called DUI "driving under the influence. Then there is also DWI "driving while Intoxicated. Either way you can go to Jail.

Police who stop them are ARE interested in the accuracy of the test because that test is admitted in a court of law. And yes if your impaired by alcohol they are interested in an arrest before a driver kills someone.

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I found a way to blow 0.00% consistently on the breathalyzer test. Works every time - guaranteed!

Step 1: Don't drink any alcoholic beverages before you drive drive.
Step 2: Breathe any way you like.
Step 3: Blow any way you like.
Step 4: Thank the officer for doing a great job.
Step 5: Go home safely.

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A few points:

While it is generally legal to drive after having consumed alcohol, and that it is illegal to drive with a BAC over 0.08%, it is also illegal in some states to drive while legally impaired even if you are under an 0.08%. The suggestion that if one is under 0.08% they are totally legal is erroneous.

Do you know what the basis for 0.08% being the legal level? Do you know the science behind it? Have you participated or observed a scientific study of alcohol impairment and divided attention? Being impaired doesn't mean that you are not able to drive in a straight line or maintain the speed limit. A monkey can be taught to drive like that. It's more than just the rudimentary driving actions. It's the fine motor skills, the ability to observe, reaction time, perception of speed and distance, the ability to perform multiple tasks at the same time, and many other things. Plenty of impaired drivers are driving in what would appear to be a normal and sober manner until they do not see that the light is red or that there is cross traffic because their visual acuity and reaction time are affected.

Sorry but the only way that this post could come close to being a public service announcement is if it turned into a schedule of when you plan on drinking and where you'll be driving so we can all avoid you. You might be a regular Ricky Bobby when totally sober but I wouldn't want to be the cones you would inevitably mow over if you tried to autocross at a 0.13% or put more bluntly, the person you kill or seriously injure because you can't call a taxi or arrange for a designated driver. Drink as much or as little as you want; just don't drive.

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Considering I've seen close friends cars wrapped around trees, I think I'll pass. IMO, it ought to be zero tolerance, like for underage people, but like smoking...
If you're going to get drunk, do it somewhere you can walk home or have a sober driver, and DONT boot in their car.

Yes, and "driving under the influence" requires EITHER a BAC at a certain level OR the demonstration of impaired driving. It is TOTALLY legal to have a beer and then drive home, and almost surely just as safe as some dude talking on his phone or tuning his radio. While I hate the thought of people driving truly impaired, this fascistic reaction against responsible drivers who have a drink and are well under the level of impairment is silly.

I agree that the statement about BMW drivers being better drivers and able to handle their alcohol is silly, but I for one appreciate understanding how the process works.