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Old 02-04-2009, 02:05 PM
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My understanding is that global warming produces extreme weather changes and 10 F in SC is a good example of that.
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At December's U.N. Global Warming conference in Poznan, Poland, 650 of the
world's top climatologists stood up and said manmade global warming is a
media generated myth without basis.

Said climatologist Dr. David Gee, Chairman of the International Geological Congress,
"For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming?"

Meanwhile, the University of Illinois' Arctic Climate Research Center released
conclusive satellite photos showing that Arctic ice is back to 1979 levels.
What's more, measurements of Antarctic ice now show that its accumulation
is up 5 percent since 1980.

Dr. Kunihiko, Chancellor of Japan's Institute of Science and Technology said
this: "CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or the other ...
every scientist knows this, but it doesn't pay to say so."

Their mantra is atmospheric CO2 levels are escalating and this is unquestionably causing earth's temperature rise. But ask yourself if
global temperatures are experiencing the biggest sustained drop in decades, while CO2 levels continue to rise how can it be true?

Ironically, in spite of being shown false, we must now pray for it. Because a
massive study, just released by the Russian Government, contains overwhelming evidence that earth is on the verge of another Ice Age.

Based on core samples from Russia's Vostok Station in Antarctica, we now
know earth's atmosphere and temperature for the last 420,000 years. This
evidence suggests that the 12,000 years of warmth we call the Holocene
period is over.

Apparently, we're headed into an ice age of about 100,000 years give
or take. As for CO2 levels, core samples show conclusively they follow the
earth's temperature rise, not lead it.

It turns out CO2 fluctuations follow the change in sea temperature. As water
temperatures rise, oceans release additional dissolved CO2 like
opening a warm brewsky.

To think, early last year, liberals suggested we spend 45 trillion dollars and
give up five million jobs to fix global warming. But there is good news: now
that we don't have to spend any of that money, we can give it all to the
banks.
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Even left now laughing at Global Warming
By DEROY MURDOCK

Socalled "global warming" has shrunk from problem to punch line. And now, Leftists are laughing, too. It's hard not to chuckle at the idea of Earth boiling in a carbon cauldron when the news won't cooperate:

Nearly four inches of snow blanketed the United Arab Emirates' Jebel Jais region for just the second time in recorded history on January 24. Citizens were speechless. The local dialect has no word for snowfall.

Dutchmen on ice skates sped past windmills as canals in Holland froze in midJanuary for the first time since 1997. Defense Minister Eimert van Middelkoop, who inhabits a renovated 17th Century windmill, stumbled on the ice and fractured his wrist.

January saw northern Minnesota's temperatures plunge to 38 below zero, forcing skiresort closures. A Frazee, Minnesota dogsled race was cancelled, due to excessive snow.

Snow whitened Surf City, North Carolina's beaches. Days ago, ice glazed Florida's citrus groves.

As Earth faces global cooling, both troglodyte Rightwingers and lachrymose Leftwingers find Albert Gore's simmering planet
hypothesis increasingly hilarious:

"In terms of (global warming's) capacity to cause the human species harm, I don't think it makes it into the top 10," Dr. Robert Giegengack, former chairman of University of Pennsylvania's Earth and Environmental Sciences Department, told the Pennsylvania Gazette. Giegengack voted for Gore in 2000, and says he likely would again.

Commentator Harold Ambler declared January 3 on HuffingtonPost.com that he voted for Barack Obama "for a thousand times a thousand reasons." He added that Gore "owes the world an apology for his actions regarding global warming." He called Gore's assertion that "the science is in" on this issue "the biggest whopper ever sold to the public in the history of mankind."

"Not only is it false that human activity has any significant effect on global warming or the weather in general, but for the record, global warming is over," retired Navy meteorologist Dr. Martin Hertzberg wrote on carbonsense.com.

The physical chemist and selfdescribed "scientist and lifelong liberal Democrat" added: "The average temperature of Earth's atmosphere has declined over the last 10 years. From the El Nino Year of 1998 until Jan. 2007, it dropped a quarter of a degree Celsius (0.45 degrees Fahrenheit). From Jan 2007 to the spring of 2008, it dropped a whopping three quarters of a degree Celsius (1.35 degrees Fahrenheit). Those data further prove that the fearmongering hysteria about humancaused global warming is completely unjustified and is totally counterproductive to our Nation's essential needs and security."

"It is a tribute to the scientific ignorance of politicians and journalists that they keep regurgitating the nonsense about human caused
global warming," veteran Leftwing commentator and Nation magazine columnist Alexander Cockburn wrote. "The greenhouse fear mongers rely on unverified, crudely oversimplified models to finger mankind's sinful contribution and carbon trafficking, just like the old indulgences, is
powered by guilt, credulity, cynicism, and greed."

Some Leftists believe the collective hallucination of warmism distracts from what they consider urgent progressive priorities:

"The most destructive force on the planet is powerdriven
financiers and profitdriven corporations and their cartels backed by military might," University of Ottawa physics professor Dr. Denis Rancourt has written. "The global warming myth is a red herring that
contributes to hiding this truth."

Social historian Dr. David Noble of Canada's York University concurs. He has
lamented that warmism is "diverting attention from the radical challenges of the global justice movements."

Geophysicist Dr. Claude Allegre, previously Education Minister in France's late 1990s Socialist government, denounced the "prophets of doom of global warming." He sounded amused in a September 2006 L'Express article. "The ecology of helpless protesting has become a very lucrative business for some people."

"The socalled 'consensus' on manmade global warming is not holding up," Senator James Inhofe (R Oklahoma) told his colleagues January 8. "It is becoming increasingly clear that skepticism about manmade global warming fear is not a partisan left vs. right issue."

So called "global warming" has accomplished the impossible: It has united liberals and conservatives in laughter.

(Deroy Murdock is a columnist with Scripps Howard News Service and a media fellow with the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace at Stanford University.
Email him at [email protected]
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At December's U.N. Global Warming conference in Poznan, Poland, 650 of the world's top climatologists stood up and said manmade global warming is a media generated myth without basis.
The good thing about science is you get to have opposing opinions. Given that there were over 10,000 delegates, a quick calculation suggests that something like 6.5% of the attendees had an opposing opinion. Excellent consensus!

If you headline had said "93.5% of conference attendees agree" I guess it wouldn't have had the same impact. The author won't win any journalism awards.

Not really wanting to get into a debate about the various scientific conclusions quoted above, I do have a question as to why this is a right vs left debate. I know that the writer of the article won an award for "Muckraker of the Day" but still, the continual references to leftists, lefties, and the left gets a bit tiring.

I will say that there is lots of nonsense out there on the subject of climate change, on both sides. I just don't see how this article helps improve that situation. Given the history of Deroy Murdock, maybe I shouldn't be surprised.
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Sure?

Of course not. Nothing in life is sure.

But a Mac truck hitting a A 2008 Kia Rio
has some predictable results for the Kia.
KInda like a tank hitting a tissue box......

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Are you so sure?

I think the goal is more to avoid the accident. A 2008 Kia Rio has more powerful brakes than your 1976 Coupe Deville. I'd guess it probably handles better too.

How many airbags does that Couple Deville have? Safety windshield glass? Crumple zones? ABS?

Cars have come a long way in the past 30 years as far as safety goes.

I think we would all agree that the Kia would sustain more physical damage than the Coupe Deville. But I think we are more interested in which driver and passengers would sustain more damage, and the answer to that question may be very different.
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It's funny how the so-called "scientific community" is screaming global warming when in 1974, Time mag had an article about another ICE AGE, with meteorologists saying that the "trend shows no signs of reversing". What gives???

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...944914,00.html
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What gives is people exercising their own opinion about
an issue that in fact they have little knowledge about.

50% of the people saying it's so the other 50% saying it
isn't so. Depends on who you want to believe and what
the payoff is.

Watch.......3 years from now all the folks promoting it
will be saying that the "NEW" evidence will say we we're wrong.

Remember the oil shortage in 1974? Ask today.
Oh we have plenty of oil. It Just depends on who you ask......
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Huh? 1974?
I wonder what the skill level was 35 years ago, of the basic
Earth Sciences, compared to today?

The current weather guessers are still throwing darts...better
aimed and sharper darts, but still a series of systems and chaos
that few can wrap their arms around.
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I bevieve the only people who have an honest opinion on this are the ones who say "I dont' know". The others, on both sides, are just blowing smoke out their rears - which of course may or may not contribute to the greenhouse effect.
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Not much difference when people try
to figure out what Mother/father nature
has in store.

I love it when people move to the wilderness
and find it surprising that one day forest fires
decide to sweep thru and deliver the wake
up call. I really feel bad for them but sometime
we as humans can't figure any further than our noses.

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Huh? 1974?
I wonder what the skill level was 35 years ago, of the basic
Earth Sciences, compared to today?

The current weather guessers are still throwing darts...better
aimed and sharper darts, but still a series of systems and chaos
that few can wrap their arms around.
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