"..and now for something completely irrelevant" Please take your political discussion to the politics forum

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"promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare"

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Dunno about the arm wrestle, but I am on the same bleacher row as JCL, Haigha, et al...
as I've posted before, anyone that doesn't feel that the "climate", micro, macro and global,
is not going through some period of climate change is whistling in the dark, imo.

Whether or not these changes are induced or exacerbated by humans, or burning fossil fuels,
or pollution or, depleting the ozone layer or, Al Gore or...isn't really my point. "Things", especially
the "climate", are different, or have shifted/changed, and are more chaotic to my perception, just
in the blink of an eye that the 62 years of my little life constitutes as "time".

Don't know all the "causes" and don't know how to fix those changes or, if we can even slow them
down at this point. Maybe it is simply a "period" of change and more chaotic weather...but, for anyone
to really feel that the climate and conditions and weather, at any level(s) of observation, are not evolving,
is naive, imo.
BR,mD

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My point is that the President thinks its a issue and will take steps to address the problem.

Please don't make it political unless it is in the politics forum. Thank you.

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"promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare"

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Rock on. I don't think anyone questions that things are changing...more so..why...and what extent humans play in the changes.

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An unwavering defender of those I see worth protecting.

"promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare"

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

And we also haven't learned yet that many of our attempts at "fixing" things tends to make the situation worse. It's all in an effort to preserve OURSELVES and just about nothing else (well, that's quite true, species WE deem cute and cuddly and therefore worth saving). There are natural warming and cooling periods throughout history. if we fight global warming (not saying we shouldn't change our energy ways to self-sustaining methods) and then it goes into a natural cooling cycle, now accelerated by our combating global warming, we could really fubar ourselves.

Oh well, the weekend is finally here and time to work on that intravee/alpine/spec dock install

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It is not meant to be political, the point is that the President is going to take action and therefore the country is taking action. You can disagree but our country is taking action on this issue.

If it keeps snowing, Al Gore, there's a shovel-ready job waiting for you in D.C.

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArti...global,warming

I think the mods should reprimand you for not posting in appropriate forums.

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"promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare"

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.